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re: Does Guice deserve to be mentioned with LSU all-time greats?
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:53 pm to rjacksonmroctober
Posted on 7/10/21 at 4:53 pm to rjacksonmroctober
I find it very difficult to make a decision about an accusation anymore with the ME TOO thing going on. Years ago where there was smoke there definitely fire, but now it’s a little more hazy on that.
I’m not saying I would invite him to be around program all the time and help recruiting, but I don’t want to take someone’s accomplishments away because of a situation that was never proven.
Cecil can stay away forever. Potentially Minho can if charges are true and convicted. Keep him at arms length until then.
I’m not saying I would invite him to be around program all the time and help recruiting, but I don’t want to take someone’s accomplishments away because of a situation that was never proven.
Cecil can stay away forever. Potentially Minho can if charges are true and convicted. Keep him at arms length until then.
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:01 pm to rjacksonmroctober
Yes
Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:14 pm to Lucky5150
You mean Cannon wasnt black
Sin is sin. No sin is better or worse than the next, plus I thought Guice wasn't convicted?
Sin is sin. No sin is better or worse than the next, plus I thought Guice wasn't convicted?
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:26 pm to rjacksonmroctober
I don’t think OJ gets to do a ton of USC alumni stuff and he was found innocent
Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:29 pm to rjacksonmroctober
Guice had very similar stats to Fournette at LSU. I think if Derrius was given the chance as a true freshman he would have had a better 3 year career at LSU.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:34 pm to BlackAngus
quote:
Sin is sin. No sin is better or worse than the next, plus I thought Guice wasn't convicted?
Assaulting a woman or child & counterfeiting money are in 2 entirely different universes.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:50 pm to rjacksonmroctober
Hell no. He accomplished nothing. Like at all. Most yards in a game? So what.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 5:54 pm to rjacksonmroctober
His 2016 season was more impressive than anything fournette ever did
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:01 pm to rjacksonmroctober
Yes
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:09 pm to ElJefe686
Cannon
Faulk
LF7
Hilliard
Edwards-Helaire
Addai
Dominic Davis
Guice
Alexander
Keiland Williams calves
Faulk
LF7
Hilliard
Edwards-Helaire
Addai
Dominic Davis
Guice
Alexander
Keiland Williams calves
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:20 pm to rjacksonmroctober
Guice doesn't deserve shite. However, he's absolutely in the mix of all time greats at RB for LSU. P.o.s. was awesome. Except for that time he went the wrong way vs Florida and cost us the game. And nearly cost O the HC job.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:22 pm to tibebecolston
Great list, I would add Cecil Diesel & Jacob Hester. I forgot about Dominic Davis — he was a beast!!
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:25 pm to rjacksonmroctober
good, but not all-time great
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:38 pm to Spankum
quote:
There was no due process
I was taught 2 wrongs do not make a right
(LSU's Title IX dysfunction)
...does not justify "no due process". Sorry.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:39 pm to Booyow
quote:
Cecil Derrius Barkevious
How about CEH?
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:42 pm to rjacksonmroctober
He wasn’t an all time great without the rape stuff. He was very good but fornette, hill and CEH were all better in just the recent era.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 6:53 pm to rjacksonmroctober
All-time great rapists? Top 3 for sure
Posted on 7/10/21 at 7:10 pm to rjacksonmroctober
Yes he does. Just like OJ Simpson with USC. The fact that he's likely a piece of shite doesn't change the fact that he was one of the best players to ever put on a uniform here.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 7:23 pm to rjacksonmroctober
On the field, if you define that as a Top 5-10 RB, yes, he does. He was a high-effort, violent, scrappy runner.
Guice is 1 of 5 RBs to ever go over 3000 yards (3 years). He has the record for yards in a game, and 3 of the top 4 games for yards in LSU History. Also 2 of the Top 10 seasons ever for yards.
What's most impressive about all the yards is the YPC. Best in LSU History with a 200-carry minimum. If you make it a 100-carry minimum, only Russell Shepard and Trindon Holliday had a higher YPC.
I'm sure the off-the-field issues will negatively affect how he's remembered, though.
Guice is 1 of 5 RBs to ever go over 3000 yards (3 years). He has the record for yards in a game, and 3 of the top 4 games for yards in LSU History. Also 2 of the Top 10 seasons ever for yards.
What's most impressive about all the yards is the YPC. Best in LSU History with a 200-carry minimum. If you make it a 100-carry minimum, only Russell Shepard and Trindon Holliday had a higher YPC.
I'm sure the off-the-field issues will negatively affect how he's remembered, though.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 7:25 pm to rjacksonmroctober
He was significantly better than CEH, CEH just happened to play on a GOAT offense.
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