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re: Selling House: Buyer May Want HVAC & Water Heater

Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:12 am to
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20410 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:12 am to
I was told the system uses R22 and that I was going to be SOL once one of the units went out because R22 was unavailable in CT.

I decided not to push the issue with the sellers because houses are being sold in this area sight unseen and I didn't want the sellers to back out of the offer because I complained about a functional (but old) HVAC.

FYI, we had our offer accepted 5 hours after the home was listed. Multiple agents were pissed because they had clients that would have offered more. It is a bit insane up here.
Posted by MyrtleBeachTiger
S Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
259 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:13 am to
Your agent should be handling this. Why are you sending your HVAC guy?

I'm sure the age of HVAC/water heater were disclosed and if running fine you should have no worries. Home inspector will usually put in report "the HVAC near end of useful life" and recommend having HVAC guy come out.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:12 am to
quote:

Multiple agents were pissed because they had clients that would have offered more. It is a bit insane up here.


here is your answer. tell this guy to pound sand
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17526 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:21 am to
Tell him you'll replace the hvac and water heater, and then raise the price $20k.

It's called "making the deal".
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
1911 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Tell him you'll replace the hvac and water heater, and then raise the price $20k.

It's called "making the deal".




Like this idea as well. Replace the HVAC for $X but I'm increasing the sale price by $X and you can finance that over the 30 years.
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
1911 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:19 am to
quote:

they wont close.

Your agent sounds terrible.

I would sit tight and get that HVAC report from their guy, push to have them submit what they want in a revised contract. Then immediately reject it and move on. Don't let them or your agent say another word about it (and wait until the new conditions are sent so you can outright reject, don't let your agent hem and haw).

Then be very frank with your agent to get another offer and a backup offer and no more BS. Even on a 200k house, an expensive 10k ac is 5% of the price.....on a 400k house its 2.5%. Anyone bitching about that is putting down 0.00 and financials will be a mess.


He's putting down 20% in cash and financing the rest. We'll see when the report comes out.

Agent said if the AC is running then usually you'll only fix any parts that require maintenance. Not replace the whole thing.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11827 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:39 am to
Wait until what the hvac technician says. 2002 doesn’t mean it needs to be replaced.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11827 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:42 am to
All the general home inspector is doing is temperature splits. A visual inspection as well as a leak test etc should be performed
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3487 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

I'm selling my house and under contract.


The contract must have included standard print "subject to homn inspection"?

Since you already came down $7K (which is over half price of a new HVAC) tell him Zillow or Trulia are great options for his mother.

You are in the driver's seat.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12419 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:59 pm to
You already came down 7 grand. If he wants to renegotiate shite like this, raise the price to match that amount or kick rocks. This is a massive sellers market.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6240 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 2:14 pm to
Sellers markets

He can eat a bag of dicks
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85387 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

I've already come down in price on the sale about 7k.


That makes me think you’re in a not so hot market.

I think you tell the buyer that your $7k decline in price is the allowance for the appliances. You know whether or not the home is a good deal, so you be the judge.
Posted by brokelikeajoke
Member since Jan 2019
231 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:24 pm to
Seriously what do you expect the report to say?

"Unit is 20 years old, near end of service life, recommend replacing now before imminet failure." To they buyers he will say "it may last another couple of years, but if it was me, i would get them to replace it."

Its like going to a whore house and asking if they think you should buy some titays.

Stop negotiating, now. Sellers and buyers often experience fear/uncertainty/doubt and real estate agents on both sides take advantage of this. Its just a business transaction, they are changing the terms and you are not comfortable with it (thus posting on a message board). Just walk (or tell them move on to next phase of closing prep). If you walk now you probably get the 7k from the next buyer.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21999 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Do you tell them to pound sand?
If the market in your area is like most of the country, yes. Maybe offer to pay for 1 year home warranty if you're feeling generous.

quote:

Guy is buying the house for his mother and wants to close quick as she's moving from out of town
Leverage is in your favor

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22670 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

All the general home inspector is doing is temperature splits. A visual inspection as well as a leak test etc should be performed


Given the current market, if I was a seller I wouldn’t give a shite what the inspector found. If I’m under contract with a buyer and the AC is functioning just as it was the day they put in the offer and I disclosed its age and condition properly, there is nothing to discuss. If they don’t want to close, take their earnest money (following whatever provisions are in the contract) and put it back on the market.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14347 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 7:45 am to
just sold a house, they asked for $18k in stuff. Most of it ridiculous, roof looked alot worse then I thought it would and needed replacement. I offered them $2k and cash total and they accepted and didnt say anything else.
Posted by SB9513
Member since Dec 2019
148 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:56 am to
I sold my house a few months ago. The buyer paid for the inspection and they came up with a bunch of small items that would have cost me a few thousand dollars to repair which included some ac work. I ended giving them $500 and told their agent if they didn't like it I had 11 other offers to deal with. That buyer ended up accepting but they refused to be in the same room as us during the closing. I'd tell them to pound sand.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26569 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:05 am to
In this market I would laugh and tell my agent to take it from pending to back on the market.
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6726 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:30 am to
quote:

In this market? He can kick rocks


THIS


You're in the drivers seat.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 10:31 am
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15794 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 3:15 pm to
He’s bluffing. You can easily sell to someone else. He can just go buy another house for his mom.
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