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re: Fed hides weekly M1 supply, says "money doesn't matter"

Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:38 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85138 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:38 am to
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Powell added that “the correlation between different aggregates [like] M2 and inflation is just very, very low, and you see that now where inflation is at 1.4% for this year. Inflation dynamics evolve over time, but they don’t tend to change overnight.”


He’s not wrong. Are you suggesting he is?

You need actual velocity of money to trigger traditional inflation, and then you need that velocity to be maintained for it to be long lasting inflation.

People have been worrying about runaway inflation since 2009 and it simply hasn’t even come close to materializing in this country.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:42 am to
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trigger traditional inflation, and then you need that velocity to be maintained for it to be long lasting inflation.


it's quite amusing you think there's an actual correct way to calculate inflation in the first place when the models are constantly changing

I swear people's minds on fiat is a disease
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423481 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:58 am to
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People have been worrying about runaway inflation since 2009 and it simply hasn’t even come close to materializing in this country.


if the underlying fundamentals would predict inflation and it hasn't happened over this decade-ish period, you have to ask, "why not?"

are we living in a neo-economy where traditional fundamentals no longer exist? if so, what is the extent of our society's ability to exist on fake/printed money?

is there massive inflation, just not across the board?

is there actual inflation, just inflation over deflating assets?

etc.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49037 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:59 am to
quote:

He’s not wrong. Are you suggesting he is?




Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 7:39 am to
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People have been worrying about runaway inflation since 2009 and it simply hasn’t even come close to materializing in this country.


In terms of CPI? No. In terms of housing and the stock market, absolutely it has.

Asset class inflation like this only serves to increase wealth inequality and in my view it absolutely does reduce faith in the USD, which will reduce the demand for treasury bonds, which will create a positive feedback loop in which our ability to raise capital comes more from the creation of money rather than the borrowing of it, which will absolutely eventually be an inflationary risk.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80803 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:32 am to
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slackster
If it isn't inflation, what do we call the increase in price of the following over the past decade:

Food
Housing
Medical costs
Education
Memorabilia
Childcare

And more recently:
Commodities

Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4187 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:33 am to
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He’s not wrong. Are you suggesting he is?


Then what dictates $1.2T spending bill or $4.5T spending bill? Why not $100T? Why doesn’t the gvt just give half the country $1m a year?
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:39 pm to
Look at a few professions average salary percentage increases for the past 10 years.

2010 RN - 67000/yr ave
2021 RN - 77500/yr ave

2010 S&P500 SPY at $120-$130
2021 S&P500 SPY at $410

The worker is getting crushed
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49037 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:36 am to
quote:

He’s not wrong. Are you suggesting he is?

You need actual velocity of money to trigger traditional inflation, and then you need that velocity to be maintained for it to be long lasting inflation.

People have been worrying about runaway inflation since 2009 and it simply hasn’t even come close to materializing in this country.


I can't imagine how low one's IQ needs to be to think that printing 10 trillion dollars wouldn't have severe consequences. Its materializing now
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:13 pm to
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People have been worrying about runaway inflation since 2009 and it simply hasn’t even come close to materializing in this country.


Mmhmm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19719 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:10 pm to
Please tell that to my grocery store!

Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49037 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

He’s not wrong. Are you suggesting he is?

You need actual velocity of money to trigger traditional inflation, and then you need that velocity to be maintained for it to be long lasting inflation.

People have been worrying about runaway inflation since 2009 and it simply hasn’t even come close to materializing in this country.


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