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re: Stan Van Gundy - “What good reason is there to play the anthem before a game?”

Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Lucky5150
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:38 pm to
What good reason is there to have the NBA?
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:41 pm to
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Man, I gotta say I never realized how intensely nationalistic people pretend to be around here
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:41 pm to
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I don’t think anyone is suggesting that we “need” basketball. Some of us like basketball. Some of us like basketball in secret but pretend we haven’t watched it for years. Some of us don’t like it even though we comment on it constantly. But none of us truly need it.


Shut it down. No other facets of life do we pay money to watch assholes shoot a ball into hoops.
Posted by Wild Thang
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:49 pm to
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whatiknowsofar


Soft as baby shite
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:53 pm to
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When I say "why do we even do it" I'm not saying that in the context of actively wanting the song removed. It's being said as a response to not really seeing the issue if it is done away with


Pretty much this. I won't lose any sleep if it stays forever. I won't lose any sleep if the nba decides to let some teams forego playing the anthem and get right to the game.

Neither one affects my viewing experience of the game in any way.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Shut it down. No other facets of life do we pay money to watch assholes shoot a ball into hoops.
is that an attack on the NBA or to the people who pay to watch it?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:55 pm to
I agree with Stan, never understood why the Anthem was so important to play before a stupid sporting event.

Play it before something important.

But why are NBA folks, coaches and former coaches such giant SJW pussies?

Is it the white guilt they feel for making their money off the sweat of the black man? If the NBA players are right and the NBA is like a Plantation, well who are the coaches? Fess up Stan! Repent for your evil past!
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:56 pm to
Is his brother Jeff a commie too?
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:57 pm to
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knew the Pels had a commie as a head coach, but yeah, frick this guy.


So you can’t answer the question then?
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:57 pm to
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The exact quote from SVG was the prevailing thought on the MSB a couple of years ago or whenever the kneeling thing was going on.


Yeah it’s kind of funny to see the pivot now that it’s actually happening
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:58 pm to
Not really surprising. Just another episode of typical TD hypocrisy
Posted by lazy
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:59 pm to
Gundy is correct. It's like a great song that gets played too much on the radio and you start getting tired of it.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:00 pm to
Applying the possible logic to their own business model
Posted by Cliff Booth
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:26 pm to
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When I say "why do we even do it" I'm not saying that in the context of actively wanting the song removed. It's being said as a response to not really seeing the issue if it is done away with



I take no issue with that, nor anyone who feels the ritual isn't necessary.

That being said, the current custom is to play it, so the Mavs DID actively want the the song removed. They understood it's a hot button issue right now that would cause some uproar, but they felt so strongly that the anthem needed to go that they still did it.

I think it's reasonable for people to then want to know WHY it was so important and what their motives were.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:29 pm to
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think it's reasonable for people to then want to know WHY it was so important and what their motives were.
we could also ask why the NBA wants to force every team to play it. That’s much more communistic as a top down mandate, instead of something a proprietor such as Cuban does with his business
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Yeah it’s kind of funny to see the pivot now that it’s actually happening


I’m confused
Did the people who say they didn’t want the anthem then if people were going to kneel also now want it back?

I don’t believe I said anything like that, and certainly don’t think any of my fellow baws (McCraigbro, SDV, wild thang) ever said anything like that either
Posted by kage
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:33 pm to
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So you are comparing an example of your coach simply being bored with a pregame tradition to the current situation of nixing the anthem as a political statement and a big middle finger to our country? Pfft! Sure thing! Don't sit there and try to convince me this situation is even remotely similar to your coach's boredom with tradition.


I am. This was a guy who absolutely loved his country and openly talked about that to us, and about why his time in Vietnam made him appreciate this country more.

When I go to Braves games, I'd be willing to bet that close to half the people in my vicinity are either looking at their phone, talking to someone, making a quick dash to the bathroom/concessions, not really paying attention, etc to the national anthem. Just because someone doesn't really care to fully engage in singing that song before a sporting event, has absolutely nothing to do with their love of this country.

It's my opinion that true patriotism is challenging your country to be a better version of itself. It has nothing to do with singing a song or wearing a flag pin on the lapel of a suit for example, which sprung up everywhere after 9/11.

Most people don't realize the version of the song that's played ends in a question mark. The song is actually much longer, but the national anthem as we know it is only the first part. It's up to interpretation as to what that means, but here's a very short read on what Scott Key may have meant, which I believe to be a call to continue questioning if we're really living up to the ideals of liberty and justice for all.

LINK
Posted by redfish99
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:33 pm to
Yep fat sloppy fuk needs to shut up and coach.
Posted by Wild Thang
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Did the people who say they didn’t want the anthem then if people were going to kneel also now want it back?

I don’t believe I said anything like that, and certainly don’t think any of my fellow baws (McCraigbro, SDV, wild thang) ever said anything like that either



Yea, I have no idea what that dumbass is talking about either. Not surprising though. Most of these sky screamers on the MSB/Pels Talk are low IQ.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:38 pm to
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The exact quote from SVG was the prevailing thought on the MSB a couple of years ago or whenever the kneeling thing was going on.



People can be persuaded that the anthem isn't really necessary for sporting events.

But that's a different argument than removing it in a backdoor attempt to appease extremists.
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