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re: "God's plan" God does not save us from earthly suffering
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:56 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:56 am to burger bearcat
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Suffering is not a new concept for most of human history, I don't understand why Americans think they are immune from it. It is our job while on earth to try and prevent it, but I don't understand sitting and waiting for God to fix it for us.
The best, IMHO, logical argument for atheism is the argument from evil. That there is too much suffering in the world for a good God to exist.
However, logically speaking, it would not be possible for humans to learn about empathy, sympathy, self-sacrifice, or charity were it not for some amount of evil to exist.
It is our job to fight and prevent evil. And there are lots of kinds of evil to fight.
Liberal stupidity is one such evil.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 10:00 am to BiteMe2020
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However, logically speaking, it would not be possible for humans to learn about empathy, sympathy, self-sacrifice, or charity were it not for some amount of evil to exist.
Well said, Atheists who use this 'why would a loving God..." argument arent nearly as smart as they think they are. The question has a very logical answer.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 11:59 am to BiteMe2020
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That there is too much suffering in the world for a good God to exist.
People who say this think "good" means "nice."
R.C. Sproul told the story of an elderly lady coming up to him and saying something to the effect of, "I just don't understand how a good God could say that he hated Esau," to which Sproul replied, "Oh I have no trouble at all understanding that. What troubles me is how a good God could say He loved Jacob!"
It's no mystery that horrible things happen to people. What's astounding, given God's holiness, is that good things happen to anyone at all.
His mercy and long-suffering patience are astounding.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:55 pm to BiteMe2020
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The best, IMHO, logical argument for atheism is the argument from evil. That there is too much suffering in the world for a good God to exist.
I would argue it says right the opposite...that it is evidence that a good God exists and he is patient in wiping us all of the face of the earth for our depravity, to give us time to come to Him in repentance through the work of his Son, Jesus Christ.
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