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Falcons officially announce Fontenot as their GM
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:47 am
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:47 am
Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:07 am to Rand AlThor
I’ll take the 3rd round picks. Will be vital for this team’s success to continue drafting well
Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:32 am to LSUZombie
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New Orleans will get two third-round compensatory picks for having a minority candidate hired away.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:36 am to Rand AlThor
We are going to need them
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:00 am to Athis
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New Orleans will get two third-round compensatory picks for having a minority candidate hired away.
This is really stupid.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:07 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Why is it stupid? Seems a pretty level-headed approach to incentivizing minority growth in upper level team management.
No one made the Falcons hire him, but they determined him to be the best candidate for their position. And because the Saints developed him to that level, they are compensated. It’s a pretty intelligent, grass-roots approach to promoting an under represented talent base.
No one made the Falcons hire him, but they determined him to be the best candidate for their position. And because the Saints developed him to that level, they are compensated. It’s a pretty intelligent, grass-roots approach to promoting an under represented talent base.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:20 am to MetArl15
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Why is it stupid? Seems a pretty level-headed approach to incentivizing minority growth in upper level team management.
No one made the Falcons hire him, but they determined him to be the best candidate
That's why it is stupid. If he's the best candidate, then he's the best candidate, congrats to him! But the idea that the NFL has that black people, uh I mean minorities, can't get a job without incentivizing teams seems a bit racist to me.
I'll gladly take the picks, but I think it's a pretty stupid premise. Same with the Rooney rule. I wouldn't want to be interviewed just because of the color of my skin.
Now if the NFL wants to setup something for all younger coordinators and positions coaches to go through mock interviews and such like that to prepare them, I'm all for that. I think they already have something similar, but it's just for the black coaches, which again I disagree with singling out a specific race.
Maybe I'm naïve, but I find it hard to believe that in this BILLION dollar industry that Owners would not hire the whomever they believed to be the best candidate just because they were a minority
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:29 am to Doug_H
Saints are compensated for developing him into the best candidate. Without the opportunity the Saints provided him, he could not become someone considered for a GM role. No one could. NFL is incentivizing the opening of opportunities at the ground level and helping people reach their potential. It’s a positive thing IMO.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:47 am to MetArl15
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And because the Saints developed him to that level, they are compensated
Hypothetical question. If a team took Ireland, and the Saints promoted Fontenot to GM to keep another team from taking him; do the Saints still get the comp picks for developing Fontenot?
Also, convenient timing for the Saints. Considering the cap ramification for '21 and potentially '22; they were probably going to be pretty quiet in the FA period; other than resigning, cutting & extensions.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:53 am to MetArl15
I see what you're saying, but I disagree.
This is the way I look at it. I work for a company that is based in Baton Rouge, and I am from Eunice. Baton Rouge population is 221,599 and Eunice is 9,989.
If we had an opportunity for a management position and they had a rule stating that they had to interview candidates from Eunice or other smaller towns simply because we had a population of less than 10k, I'd take that as an insult because they are basically saying all those simple country Eunice folk know is how to farm rice & crawfish or work offshore.
Again I'm never against interviewing anyone, but only if they are a legit candidate.
This is the way I look at it. I work for a company that is based in Baton Rouge, and I am from Eunice. Baton Rouge population is 221,599 and Eunice is 9,989.
If we had an opportunity for a management position and they had a rule stating that they had to interview candidates from Eunice or other smaller towns simply because we had a population of less than 10k, I'd take that as an insult because they are basically saying all those simple country Eunice folk know is how to farm rice & crawfish or work offshore.
Again I'm never against interviewing anyone, but only if they are a legit candidate.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:55 am to Doug_H
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I find it hard to believe that in this BILLION dollar industry that Owners would not hire the whomever they believed to be the best candidate just because they were a minority
And this, as they say, is the problem.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:00 am to Weekend Warrior79
So we get picks because ATL is hiring away our minority coach, but do they get anything for hiring a minority?
Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:02 am to denvertiger
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And this, as they say, is the problem
What is the problem, that I don't believe that to be the case?
Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:19 am to Doug_H
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but do they get anything for hiring a minority?
Getting rid of this fricknut.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 12:18 pm to Rand AlThor
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New Orleans will get two third-round compensatory picks for having a minority candidate hired away.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 12:35 pm to MetArl15
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Why is it stupid? Seems a pretty level-headed approach to incentivizing minority growth in upper level team management.
Think of it this way. Hypothetically, if the Chargers had Brandon Staley and Eric Bieniemy ranked dead even after conducting multiple interviews with each candidate, the deciding factor would probably be "if we hire Bieniemy, we're giving a division rival (KC) multiple comp picks over the next few drafts, so we're going with Staley".
Posted on 1/19/21 at 12:44 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Getting rid of this fricknut.
Plus Terry won't have to spring for hair gel:
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:39 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
You may well find that TD is better at the job than TF.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 1:52 pm to MetArl15
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That's why it is stupid. If he's the best candidate, then he's the best candidate, congrats to him! But the idea that the NFL has that black people, uh I mean minorities, can't get a job without incentivizing teams seems a bit racist to me.
I will say on the surface the whole idea is dumb, but I will add that the picks go tor the team that groomed him and not to the team that hires him.
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