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re: Biden to close down keystone pipeline day one

Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:32 am to
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53800 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:32 am to
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Biden to close down keystone pipeline day one
Per Dan Crenshaw’s Twitter

Enjoy $4.00 gas


I wonder how the market will respond

The democrats are going own the economy in 2022.

it's going to suck... America isn't that resilient..

the question is why are democrats willing to harm our economy?

none of them believe killing a pipeline saves the planet

This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 11:33 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:38 am to
So is he shutting down the original Keystone pipeline, which is operational, or yanking the cross-border construction permit for Keystone XL?

There's is a big difference.

If he's yanking the XL permit, that sucks, but that just means new capacity won't come online.

I don't see how we can shut down the original pipeline.

All the media reports indicate that he is only pulling the XL cross-border permit. Not touching the original line.

This is a spot where details are important.
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
3081 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:43 am to
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Looks like Biden can unilaterally shut down the transportation of crude via pipeline across the US/Canada border on the Keystone pipeline for no reason at all.


The reason is to make his buddy’s that own trains and trucks more money. He gets a cut on the back end. But global warming is real!
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:45 am to
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environmental jackass tell us they weren't going to rest until the pH in the lake near us was 0. A 7 wasn't good enough.




Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57495 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:31 pm to
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What a load of crap this is. Just watch people, when gas hits 4 dollars plus under Biden this same person will tell us that is a reasonable, honest price.



...until oil company profits start soaring, then they'll have to be "dealt with" because of this.

Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18137 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:38 pm to
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You do realize that gas is artificially high right now due to a complicated set of deals orchestrated under Trump, right?


Artificially high? Did your brother tell you this? I don’t see how it could possibly get much lower.
Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

You do realize that gas is artificially high right now due to a complicated set of deals orchestrated under Trump, right?


What you smoking? Gas is cheaper than it’s been in years.
Posted by Elklivesmatter
In the high country
Member since Sep 2020
115 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:54 pm to
What’s the tax on a gallon of gas and what’s the actual price today?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11768 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:31 pm to
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We had an environmental jackass tell us they weren't going to rest until the pH in the lake near us was 0. A 7 wasn't good enough.





Even 3 or 4 years ago I would have called bullshite, but I fully believe this. The party of science knows very little of the science of things when having to speak beyond prepared talking points.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11473 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:44 pm to
The question everyone should ask is, WHY? A logical person probably already has a good idea of what the answer is.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27918 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:55 pm to
They can't since it was never officially opened....although it does exist. He would have to answer to DICK Durbin who gets healthy income frome the refining terminus in Pakoka, IL
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

This is a spot where details are important.



Do you mean like Russia! Russia! Russia! ?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10574 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:12 pm to
This stuff is feel good politics. Pipelines are the safest method to transport petroleum products.
Do democrats actually think it is safer to have oil / gas transported by a truck, rail or barge?
Oh well....

This should be a bonus for trucking, rail and barge transport companies



Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73627 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:13 pm to
Democrats are fricking retarded, and yes ALL democrats.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 3:14 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40221 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:23 pm to
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Biden to close down keystone XL pipeline day one


FIFY. There is a difference. Keystone XL is the 4th phase of the Keystone pipeline project. The first three phases are already up and running and are not affected the Presidential permit that Trump granted in 2017. Doing anything that would stop the oil already flowing in the completed sections probably won't stand up in court (especially given the district court and court of appeals it would have to go through).

quote:

Enjoy $4.00 gas


How is stopping construction on a pipeline that is not operational at the present time going to affect the price of gas? I am as anti-Biden/Harris as they come, but I am also a realist.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34971 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:25 pm to
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How is stopping construction on a pipeline that is not operational at the present time going to affect the price of gas?
its won’t really. But this is just the beginning of the lefts war on oil
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40221 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:30 pm to
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its won’t really.


Thank you.

quote:

But this is just the beginning of the lefts war on oil


Oh I am aware of that and I do not support it. Even though my personal financial situation would probably improve if oil went up. The increase to my net worth would be much greater than the extra $$$ I have to pay for gas.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40221 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

This stuff is feel good politics. Pipelines are the safest method to transport petroleum products.
Do democrats actually think it is safer to have oil / gas transported by a truck, rail or barge?
Oh well....

This should be a bonus for trucking, rail and barge transport companies


Warren Buffett was the biggest donor to the Obama and HRC campaigns (I do not know about Biden) and he is also the biggest shareholder of BNSF. BNSF is currently the hauling the oil and would have to compete against the Keystone XL pipeline. Buffett also owns a significant share of the company that proposed building a railroad from Alberta Canada to Alaska and shipping oil to the export terminals at Valdez via the TransAlaska pipeline or on the Alaska railroad. So this move is just more of the stuff that we say under Obama. Democorruptionists paying off their donors.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16596 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

You do realize that gas is artificially high right now due to a complicated set of deals orchestrated under Trump, right?


Do you not know what numbers mean? I'm struggling to come up with how you would think this unless you just don't know the difference between a 1 and a 2 or a 2 and a 3.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35497 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:38 pm to
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Care to explain? Probably not because it's completely made up bullshite but I figured I'd give you a chance.
You are such a sheep. Read and weep (or Baaaaa):

LINK

quote:

Oil-producing nations on Sunday agreed to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 10:39 pm
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