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Didn't the courts rule it illegal for Trump to block followers on twitter?

Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:52 am
Posted by Col Nathan Jessup
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:52 am
Am I supposed to believe that it's legal for twitter to block all of Trump's messages?

Based on that precedent, I can't see how a law suit by Trump against Twitter would not win.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:54 am to
i did some hardcore inception on this board yesterday

Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:54 am to
He has no rights with twitter, private company, can do what they want, don’t like it build your own twitter, build your own servers, yada yada yada
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:55 am to
Is it yesterday again? Do we need to have this conversation about misunderstanding the First Amendment for the umpteenth time?
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:55 am to
That was an especially edgy post.

Anything with Inception, and really Nolan, is edgy.
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:56 am to
Twatter became too large. Monopoly. Alabama case. Awoman religious supreme court. Are they a publisher or not?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:56 am to


one of my favorite things to watch on here is stuff being posted on here, then it goes out into the world, and ends up right back here
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:57 am to
Well, the first ruling was solely politically motivated.

If Trump brought a suit; they’d have no problem making a second ruling that was also politically motivated.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:59 am to
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Is it yesterday again? Do we need to have this conversation about misunderstanding the First Amendment for the umpteenth time?


There is already precedent regarding social media and the first amendment
Posted by HurricaneTiger
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:59 am to
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He has no rights with twitter, private company, can do what they want, don’t like it build your own twitter, build your own servers, yada yada yada


They are allowed to treat Twitter like a public platform or a private entity based off convenience.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:02 am to
Company that is governed by commerce clause and the SEC, “we’re a private company we can do what we want!!!”

Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:03 am to
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Am I supposed to believe that it's legal for twitter to block all of Trump's messages?


I think the ruling basically said that Trump was using the platform to deliver presidential messages, hence it was effectively official use. By blocking people he was preventing them from seeing the official messaging.

Twitter basically solved the problem for him by removing the platform, but I don't think they'd fall under the same ruling.
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:04 am to
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Well, the first ruling was solely politically motivated.

If Trump brought a suit; they’d have no problem making a second ruling that was also politically motivated.

Which would probably contravene the 1st ruling, based on the same grounds.
They would use a revolving door to swing back against the original ruling to return to the original stance and protections, all the while trying to justify both positions.
They want to be right either way.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Twitter basically solved the problem for him by removing the platform,

but "the platform" is Twitter itself, not a specific account

either Twitter is "the public forum" or it's not
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:07 am to
quote:

There is already precedent regarding social media and the first amendment
Yep. None of which applies to the OP's question.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 8:08 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:08 am to
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None of which applies to the OP's question.

only if you take the narrowest of interpretations

the original ruling was a bad ruling just for this reason. designating social media as a "public platform" opens up pandora's box of issues
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:09 am to
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but "the platform" is Twitter itself, not a specific account

either Twitter is "the public forum" or it's not
The government can't block your speech in a public forum. A private company can block your speech in a public forum. This is basic con law 101.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:09 am to
You should file an amicus brief when this hits the appellate circuit.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:11 am to
quote:

only if you take the narrowest of interpretations
So now you're a broad constructionist?
quote:

the original ruling was a bad ruling just for this reason. 
But the original ruling is still the law of the land.
quote:

designating social media as a "public platform" opens up pandora's box of issues
Such as?
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 8:21 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:11 am to
quote:

ruling basically said that Trump was using the platform to deliver presidential messages, hence it was effectively official use
@POTUS is the official use

@realDonaldTrump is just like anyone else’s account
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