Oddly enough, I think the Apple TV app is pretty good (may be that it's hardwired and actually sits in the same closet as my UDM Pro) in its current format. It sort of sucks with a Harmony remote and pretty much needs the Apple TV remote which is fairly frustrating. But scrubbing on it (with the dedicated touchscreen remote) or any of my computers is fairly nice. All my cameras are actually wifi as I haven't gotten around to adding bullets just yet (2 doorbells, and the g3 instant). The iphone app is leaving a bit to be desired. I would blame the wifi, but I can pretty consistently get >300mbps up/down to the internet, so there's no way the LAN connection is worse than that. And using a laptop to view events (events and smart detections are all I record) I get good/quick/snappy video. Getting Live View up and running is not really a problem. And I get notifications of smart detections relatively quickly. But reviewing them is not great. And unfortunately, this is probably 80% of its intended use for the doorbell.
I'm hoping the new Protect update is going to help that. I have a pair of the new UVP phones (uh oh, another EA product we can't talk about

) in the mail that I am going to use to see how Protect functions on android.

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new multi-sensor that's in EA

They have plenty of premium-priced products that deliver OK results. This seems way too expensive to be a practical door/window sensor. And it seems way too bulky to put on any door/window in a home. I know they're more office-oriented, but that still seems prohibitively expensive. The temp/humidity/light sensors don't really appeal to me too much- I have lutron lights and can see if they're on/off remotely in most places already. The water sensor actually does intrigue me- we have attic-installed water heaters, and we have had one explosion and subsequent tankless conversion, so I could see myself springing for this for that, but I can't see me justifying an upgrade from UAP-AC-Pro APs to any of the 6 models just for that.

It does look hilariously like the Nest device. I just hope they they don't continue to rebadge products that aren't real homeruns.

Granted, if a thermostat and garage door opener are in their future, I would totally retract all the negative things I said and pay way too much for these.

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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:19 pm to Hopeful Doc

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Getting Live View up and running is not really a problem.

I've never had a problem with it unless I use a view with 6+ camera feeds on it. Any more than that and I get a bunch of frozen feeds and spinning circles. Happens even on a relatively powerful desktop hardwired and using UNVR on the same network. It's pretty annoying, especially since I've ssh'd into the UNVR and neither the cpu nor hard drives are really taxed during this time. The hardware can easily handle delivering the streams, it looks like it's strictly a web app performance issue. I understand that live monitoring isn't the intended/expected use case for Protect, but it's still annoying. This 1.18 beta seems to work very slightly better, but the problem persists for me. I just make several 4 cam views for now.

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And I get notifications of smart detections relatively quickly. But reviewing them is not great. And unfortunately, this is probably 80% of its intended use for the doorbell.
I'm hoping the new Protect update is going to help that.

I don't have the doorbell, but is the main problem that it doesn't have rich notifications (i.e. a snapshot image)? I see that complaint a lot. They have some coding to do to catch up to ring and nest here.

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I have a pair of the new UVP phones (uh oh, another EA product we can't talk about ) in the mail that I am going to use to see how Protect functions on android.

You're getting pretty deep now.

In case you haven't seen it, pretty good review of UniFi Talk on reddit.

Also they are supposedly working on making the door access system work with the phones too. I admittedly don't know much about the state of the enterprise phone and door access industries, but this UniFi solution seems pretty slick and cheap for what it will do. Assuming it eventually works.

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This seems way too expensive to be a practical door/window sensor. And it seems way too bulky to put on any door/window in a home. I know they're more office-oriented, but that still seems prohibitively expensive.

Agreed. I understand them wanting to offer more than a basic door/window sensor, but this thing is just too much. Also I really don't understand their PoE floodlight priced at $99.

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The temp/humidity/light sensors don't really appeal to me too much

Also I would think that temp and humidity would be off by quite a bit if mounted on a door.

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The water sensor actually does intrigue me- we have attic-installed water heaters, and we have had one explosion and subsequent tankless conversion, so I could see myself springing for this for that, but I can't see me justifying an upgrade from UAP-AC-Pro APs to any of the 6 models just for that.

I haven't seen any pricing or other info on the water sensors. And being a separate device with its own battery, I wonder why it needs to be paired with this multi-sensor.

I'm seeing more of the direction they're going with the "Protect" branding, but they sure seem to be zig-zagging along the way.

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Granted, if a thermostat and garage door opener are in their future, I would totally retract all the negative things I said and pay way too much for these.

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