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re: General security camera discussion (was "Unifi Protect security cameras")

Posted on 5/27/23 at 5:46 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28745 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 5:46 pm to
I installed a lorex system for someone and I used cat6 that I ran and terminated myself. It works fine. I have never seen nor heard of an IP camera system that doesn't like cat6.

How did you test your cat6? Is it solid copper or cca cable?

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It looks like the Ubiquiti system is the top recommendation, so I am thinking about going with the Cloud Key G2 Plus and 6 G5 bullet cameras. Thoughts?
A lot of security installer "pros" hate on it, and perhaps rightfully so because honestly there are better values out there as far as video quality per dollar. There's a case to be made that both cheaper and more expensive cameras than Ubiquiti offer better video quality per dollar, and while the new G5 bullets for $130 have narrowed that gap considerably they still perform something like a $60 Reolink. And other chinese brands that cost $130 will beat the G5 bullet.

Where Ubiquiti excels is the app experience and smart detections. The app is simple, works well, and makes it really easy to find what you're looking for. Want to find when something showed up or turned up missing? It takes seconds to scroll through the timeline and find it. Want to review the people and vehicles that showed up over the last day or week? The detections page makes quick work of that with well-cropped thumbnails that show the subjects clearly. Notifications are timely and include screenshots. It's by far the best app I've used.

A couple things to keep in mind:

1. You will need to get a PoE switch to run your Ubiquiti cameras. Most NVRs have built in PoE switches but Ubiquiti's do not. You don't have to use a Ubiquiti switch, I usually just use a tp-link or ipcampower switch.

2. One neat thing about the CK2+ is that it can also be powered via PoE which makes for a clean install. You can even hide it in another room away from your router/switch/whatever and just run a cat cable to it just like the cameras.

3. The CK2+ has only a 1TB hard drive which might be a bit limiting. With 6 cameras recording 24/7 I would only expect a few days of storage. But the drive pops out easily and you can replace it with a different 2.5" drive, either hdd or ssd, to get more storage.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3187 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 6:09 pm to
Solid copper. Tested using the iMBAprice - RJ45 tester from amazon. The wires are good - I get full signal if I connect it to other devices (tested the same cable by hooking up to my desktop, works fine). Any other ideas?

I have a patch panel and poe switch, so should be good with Ubiquiti if I go that route. Any other thoughts or troubleshooting I can do?
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
1998 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 6:19 pm to
I would like to get an idea of what a really good Ubiquity system costs and which exact Ubiquity cameras and components are currently the best bang for the buck for a high quality system. In the event I someday replace my Wi-Fi cams and run Ethernet, I just wanted to know ballpark what to get and what that might roughly cost.

So for example, just a ballpark idea what NVR and other components are recommended and what outdoor cameras to get and be able to record for at least a week continuously for 9 PTZ cameras and 8 fixed cameras and get the resolutions to see tag numbers and get good facial IDs day or night out to at least 50'.

It's more of a curiosity right now as I am happy with my current comparatively cheap WiFi cameras.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3187 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:52 am to
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Korkstand


Forgot to respond to this thread. I cut off all of the RJ45s and re-terminated the wires. Finally got it working.

I took a very close look at the terminations that didn't work and didn't see anything wrong with them. Who knows.
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