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re: The Big 10 and ACC are setting the stage for locking up 3/4 playoff spots
Posted on 12/13/20 at 6:20 pm to JayWhite
Posted on 12/13/20 at 6:20 pm to JayWhite
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You'll make some claims about objective metrics, and you'll fail, because no matter what we do those metrics are subjectively weighted depending on what we need for our desired outcome.
I have no skin in the game regarding OSU, I just think you’ve failed to convince me that our desire for larger sample sizes is arbitrary enough to discard entirely. Obviously all computer formulas and criteria are inherently subjective in regards to the importance we ascribe to them or their input variables, but algorithms like ELO are probably the best we can do to minimize subjectivity and I think a commonly agreed upon composite of such algorithms (akin to Massey) could suitably be used to provide enough objectivity to not rail against the arbitrary nature of this process. It’s what I’d do, personally. And I think minimizing subjectivity in these types of processes is a goal with a lot of merit, and sufficient sample size is going to be imperative with such a goal.
This says nothing to the fact that I reject completely the point I believe you were making earlier that the jump from an open date to an FCS school is equivalent for analysis purposes to the jump between an FCS school and a conference foe.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 6:24 pm to Ross
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I have no skin in the game regarding OSU, I just think you’ve failed to convince me that our desire for larger sample sizes is arbitrary enough to discard entirely. Obviously all computer formulas and criteria are inherently subjective in regards to the importance we ascribe to them or their input variables, but algorithms like ELO are probably the best we can do to minimize subjectivity and I think a commonly agreed upon composite of such algorithms (akin to Massey) could suitably be used to provide enough objectivity to not rail against the arbitrary nature of this process. It’s what I’d do, personally. And I think minimizing subjectivity in these types of processes is a goal with a lot of merit, and sufficient sample size is going to be imperative with such a goal.
Ok.
Where does Massey rank Ohio State, A&M, etc?
Posted on 12/13/20 at 6:29 pm to Ross
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This says nothing to the fact that I reject completely the point I believe you were making earlier that the jump from an open date to an FCS school is equivalent for analysis purposes to the jump between an FCS school and a conference foe.
What do you think Alabama's annual 60+ point win over teams like Western Carolina tells us? Anything we wouldn't know of they sat home that week?
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