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Lower Mississippi River to be dredged to 50 feet. (not a river pilot thread)
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:04 pm
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I know pilot salaries are the hot topic of the day, but that represents a very small portion of the costs to ship goods. as ships continue to be built bigger, deepwater access is the real issue that determines the lower Mississippi's competitiveness, as a port, with other gulf coast and even east coast ports.
ever since the new Panama Canal locks were opened, there has been a race to 50 feet among gulf coast and east coast ports including the lower mississippi (Port Nola, Port of Baton Rouge, Port of South Louisiana) Houston, Mobile, etc.
For those that do not know, ships are built to maximum size to fit through the Panama and Suez canals. With the new panama canal locks opened, that has resulted in a new class of ship, Neopanamax, and now it is up to the ports to accomodate these larger vessels.
these are different sizes for tankers, but bulk carriers, general cargo, and containerships are all built in similar size categories.
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Today, Gov. John Bel Edwards and other top Louisiana officials signed a formal agreement with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to begin construction on the deepening of the Lower Mississippi River to 50 feet from 45 feet. This project will provide deep draft access to the ports at Baton Rouge, New Orleans, South Louisiana, St. Bernard and Plaquemines.
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“When completed, this project will allow larger vessels that can currently use the widened Panama Canal to reach Louisiana ports as far north as Baton Rouge. It will also allow for some vessels to carry heavier loads
I know pilot salaries are the hot topic of the day, but that represents a very small portion of the costs to ship goods. as ships continue to be built bigger, deepwater access is the real issue that determines the lower Mississippi's competitiveness, as a port, with other gulf coast and even east coast ports.
ever since the new Panama Canal locks were opened, there has been a race to 50 feet among gulf coast and east coast ports including the lower mississippi (Port Nola, Port of Baton Rouge, Port of South Louisiana) Houston, Mobile, etc.
For those that do not know, ships are built to maximum size to fit through the Panama and Suez canals. With the new panama canal locks opened, that has resulted in a new class of ship, Neopanamax, and now it is up to the ports to accomodate these larger vessels.
these are different sizes for tankers, but bulk carriers, general cargo, and containerships are all built in similar size categories.
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“With the signing today, we have taken one step forward toward providing a better future for countless Louisianans,” said DOTD Secretary Shawn Wilson, Ph.D. “If we work together with our natural resources and put a multimodal commerce plan in place, the Mississippi River can be an economic super highway and Louisiana can be a leader in global goods movement.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:07 pm to Captain Crackysack
Good. We have no topography, we need to dredge every river in the state.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:08 pm to Captain Crackysack
I just hope one of those big bastards doesn’t hit the levee during flood stage.
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:08 pm to Captain Crackysack
Good news. Amazing what a difference a couple feet makes.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:09 pm to Captain Crackysack
I’m gonna need several, multi-year studies on environmental impacts before they move forward with this.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:09 pm to Captain Crackysack
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I know pilot salaries are the hot topic of the day, but that represents a very small portion of the costs to ship goods
I thought this wasn’t a river pilot thread?
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:09 pm to Captain Crackysack
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to 50 feet from 45 feet.
Seems like a small change. I feel like the river bottom could frequently vary that much due to silt. But I'm not a river scientist.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:18 pm to Captain Crackysack
What kind of mileage of river are we talking? That sounds like a huge undertaking.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:21 pm to Captain Crackysack
Pretty interesting!
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:29 pm to Captain Crackysack
Where are they dumping the sediment? Hopefully in the swamps.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:31 pm to Captain Crackysack
Panama Canal Max: Panamax (old)
New Panama Canal Max: Panamax (new)
Suez Canal Max: Suezmax
Straight of Malacca Max: Very Large Crude Carrier (VLCC)
This amuses me
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:33 pm to Captain Crackysack
They should load the silt from this project onto barges and start another project for coastal restoration
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:46 pm to Captain Crackysack
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deepening of the Lower Mississippi River to 50 feet
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New Panama Canal Max draft of 49.9 ft
With 1.25" to spare, definitely going to need to up pilot pay.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:52 pm to Captain Crackysack
so many "that's what she said" jokes
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:56 pm to Captain Crackysack
This thread is way over my head.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:12 pm to Captain Crackysack
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ever since the new Panama Canal locks were opened, there has been a race to 50 feet among gulf coast and east coast ports including the lower mississippi (Port Nola, Port of Baton Rouge, Port of South Louisiana) Houston, Mobile, etc.
Port of Corpus Christi is planning on handling fully-laden VLCCs and Suezmax tankers at some facilities. IIRC, their minimum draft for every single facility is going to be -54' with up to another -4' for overdepth allowance and advanced maintenace dredging. That is going on now, they are working from Port A back towards La Quinta channel and the main port.
Everyone else is playing catch up. PoCC is now 3rd in the nation based on tonnage... lots and lots of Permian Basin crude exported (plus the Qmax ships for LNG, which are big but only draft in the 40's if memory serves).
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:33 pm to Captain Crackysack
Louisiana always catering to the dredges of society.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:54 pm to Captain Crackysack
Politicians fixing to make bank!
Go to 55 or go home!
Go to 55 or go home!
Posted on 8/1/20 at 2:00 pm to Captain Crackysack
Why stop at 50? We should have gone for the whole enchilada by going 66 feet to get the Suez traffic too.
The VLCC can always just use LOOP.
The VLCC can always just use LOOP.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 2:30 pm to Captain Crackysack
An 82' draft is mind-blowing. You can't safely get anywhere near Louisiana drafting that much
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