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re: This problem affects us all. PDs need accountability. Remember Daniel Shaver.

Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203356 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:49 pm to
Great points........ the BLM movement just doesn’t get it. I just wonder that if so many blacks didn’t commit stupid and senseless crimes they may be looked at differently.....
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:50 pm to
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His is by far the most horrifying police brutality video and it received practically zero media coverage


didn't stop the resident OT bootlickers to still do the whole "comply or die" routine
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7222 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:51 pm to
And who appointed these police chiefs in these crime-ridden cities and unionized the police?

I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with rats.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37580 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:56 pm to
I’ve never seen that video. frick. That. Cop. You had 3 fricking minutes of that man laying in the ground completely non-threatening.

Next the guy was doing everything they asked and was slowly crawling on the ground. He was not a threat at all.

You can argue semantics of murder versus manslaughter in the Floyd case. This was murder.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10056 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:57 pm to
I’m trying to decipher who is dumber and more reckless, the cop playing soldier, or the jury of his peers.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17199 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:59 pm to
Jesus Christ that video...why didn't they cuff him when he was laying on the ground with his legs crossed and arms over his head?

Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:00 pm to
this is horrible. What was the jury's rationale for aquitting this goon?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85131 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:01 pm to
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There is currently no accountability for the police in America.
Fake news.
Posted by cmayLSU07
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
80 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:04 pm to
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The militarization of our police forces is a problem for ALL of us. It totally pisses me off the BLM has taken this as their own problem. It alienates people when we should all before for police reforms like ending the drug war, civil asset forfeiture, no-knock raids, and qualified immunity.


I completely agree and that's what's been so frustrating to watch while this all unfolds. This shouldn't be a racial issue at all. This should be an issue ALL Americans are worried/care about. We need all of the above reforms.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203356 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:06 pm to
That was plain murder. But so was Floyd’s.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28996 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:13 pm to
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This is the one that always comes to mind for me. This is the worst example I've seen in my life. It's a horrifying video


I’m sober and I would have trouble following all those instructions with an AR pointed at me, nonetheless drunk.

Floyd being held down is awful. Garner’s death was awful, but that shite just straight horrifies me.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:14 pm to
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I completely agree and that's what's been so frustrating to watch while this all unfolds. This shouldn't be a racial issue at all. This should be an issue ALL Americans are worried/care about. We need all of the above reforms.


No kidding, but that ship has sailed. The rioting has proven now that police need more military toys to be able to curb this type of violence. You can't put the genie back in the bottle now.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28996 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:15 pm to
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dn't stop the resident OT bootlickers to still do the whole "comply or die" routine


I have never once seen a person say that towards Shaver’s death. I agree comply or die is stupid, but the cop was making it really hard to comply with.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
4470 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:18 pm to
I would really like to study the trial transcript to determine how this police officer was acquitted. His actions seem indefensible from a legal perspective.

Was there a subsequent civil suit against the authorities?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:19 pm to
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I have never once seen a person say that towards Shaver’s death. I agree comply or die is stupid, but the cop was making it really hard to comply with.


here is the original TD thread

plenty of "comply or die" comments throughout

LINK
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37580 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:19 pm to
If not there fricking needs to be
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20935 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:22 pm to
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PDs need accountability. Remember Daniel Shaver.



If solutions were focused around this we may actually see some progress.
Posted by Dustydubs
Member since Mar 2020
483 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:25 pm to
Never really met a real live individual that doesn’t think we need serious police reform. This is well know in my parts. But they had to make it racial.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:39 pm to
Oh shite I remember that story.

Those cops straight up murdered that man.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10605 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:40 pm to
Does anyone know why the police were called on the Shaver case? Was it an "armed and dangerous" situation for the police? Because they didn't look armed and dangerous.
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