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re: AJC releases video showing Arbery running after caught breaking into unfinished home
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:49 pm to AMS
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:49 pm to AMS
quote:Nope
I guess you just want to ignore mcmichaels saying he initiated the confrontation.
Don't need to ignore it.
All branches, to include that one, stem from deceased's decisions.
You really can't dance out of that reality.
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:50 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
But, both activities certainly increased your odds of ending up dead via YOUR OWN decisions.
Like I said...
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:51 pm to texashorn
quote:Then you don't know the definition of "deserved".
Like I said...
I can't help you with that problem.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:52 pm to the808bass
quote:
Yes. If you know for sure a crime has been committed. And that’s where the discussion ends here. Because you’re sure Ahmaud is a criminal. But you’ll be unable to give me any proof.
And that’s why citizen arrest isn’t going to work here.
You still don’t want to accept what the law is.
Immediate knowledge of a felony warrants a citizens arrest.
Entering a dwelling with intent to steal is a felony in Georgia.
We’ll see if there’s reasonable evidence to that end, but it’s trending that way.
It’s also looking like their might have been impropriety in the da’s office.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:53 pm to AMS
quote:
I guess you just want to ignore mcmichaels saying he initiated the confrontation
I don’t see how that’s relevant.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:54 pm to the808bass
quote:
Yes. If you know for sure a crime has been committed. And that’s where the discussion ends here. Because you’re sure Ahmaud is a criminal. But you’ll be unable to give me any proof
Are you sure he's not? Are you sure they weren't aware of anything criminal before they went after him?
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:54 pm to joshnorris14
Jogging...
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:54 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:It's a hail Mary to try to avoid the root that comes before the branches.
I don’t see how that’s relevant.
Deceased's behavior is the root. There's only ONE root.
There are other poor choices that come after the root, but none of those choices can occur without the root.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:55 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:
You still don’t want to accept what the law is.
I’m fine with where the law is. A person “hauling arse down the street” isn’t immediate knowledge of a crime. Hell, even if McMichael saw him leave the house, he probably doesn’t have enough to effect a citizens arrest.
Probable cause isn’t part of a citizens arrest.
The reason we don’t allow people to detain people because of probable cause is because detaining can be messy business.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:55 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Because you’re sure Ahmaud is a criminal.
One more thing.
Would love to see where I posted this.
Hint: you won’t find it, although his rap sheet says he is.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:55 pm to the808bass
quote:You say this as if 100% proof that he was engaged in criminal activity would change your tune in this thread even 1%
Yes. If you know for sure a crime has been committed. And that’s where the discussion ends here. Because you’re sure Ahmaud is a criminal. But you’ll be unable to give me any proof.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:56 pm to the808bass
quote:
I’m fine with where the law is. A person “hauling arse down the street” isn’t immediate knowledge of a crime. Hell, even if McMichael saw him leave the house, he probably doesn’t have enough to effect a citizens arrest
You aren’t, the rest of this post is worthless rabble.
Stay on point if you can.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:56 pm to the808bass
He was garbage. What was your opinion on the postal woman killed by homie in Indiana?
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:57 pm to Smeg
quote:
Are you sure he's not? Are you sure they weren't aware of anything criminal before they went after him?
The fact that you’re asking this question isn’t helping the McMichaels. It’s not a great question. I’m not sure. But that’s not the question. The question is did the McMichaels have direct knowledge of a crime serious enough to attempt to detain Ahmaud at gunpoint. All of that, at this point, looks unlikely.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:57 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Nope
Don't need to ignore it.
All branches, to include that one, stem from deceased's decisions.
You really can't dance out of that reality.
You need to ignore it if you have any type of logical consistency. Arbery didnt make mcmichaels confront him. Those branches were on separate trees until mcmichaels made his choice to confront Arbery. None of your gymnastics change the fact that Mcmichaels initiated their confrontation. He could have not confronted Arbery and followed until police could apprehend, but he chose to confront Arbery himself.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:57 pm to Turbeauxdog
You’re an idiot. If you can’t discuss something, don’t try to.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:58 pm to the808bass
quote:
direct knowledge of a crime serious enough to attempt to detain Ahmaud at gunpoint. All of that, at this point, looks unlikely.
Immediate or in person. Keep the wording correct if you’re trying to make a point.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:58 pm to the808bass
quote:
You’re an idiot. If you can’t discuss something, don’t try to.
Get your emotions in check. Adults are discussing a topic.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:59 pm to Stingy
quote:
What was your opinion on the postal woman killed by homie in Indiana?
I’m unaware of that story. I’m not in favor of senseless homicides as a general rule. I hope that helps provide a roadmap of my thought processes.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:59 pm to the808bass
quote:
The question is did the McMichaels have direct knowledge of a crime serious enough to attempt to detain Ahmaud at gunpoint. All of that, at this point, looks unlikely.
So if it comes out that they did have direct knowledge of a crime he just committed... They would be justified? I just want to make sure goal posts don't move.
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