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re: Amazingly, American Football is not in Europe... why?

Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:12 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:12 am to
Several reasons:

#1 American Football is essentially another code of Rugby. They already have their own rugby (in some places more than one code as it is), why do they need another?

#2 The rules and strategy are very complicated. Most people don't want to sit down and learn a sport with a lot of nuance to it. Explaining basketball or soccer to a layperson is much much much simpler.

#3 It's American. We have a reputation around the world as being boorish idiots, this doesn't make people want to go out of their way to learn our culture. England is the one exception to this (as they are boorish idiots as well), and not surprisingly American Football is most popular there of all places outside of North America. Even there a lot of people complain that it's too complicated, too much stop start, and don't see why the players need "all that armor"
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 8:18 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:17 am to
Don’t forget that it takes a lot of expensive equipment to play.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:06 am to
I agree with two of your reasons. The third sounds like some SJW crapola. If boorishness and bad behavior was a detriment, the hooliganism of soccer, especially British soccer would have doomed it. Not to lay all the blame on the Brits as there have been incidents all over Europe of such behavior. Out of control fans aren't an American monopoly; there are riots at cricket matches (!) in India for example and Aussie rules fans can be very outrageous.

The principal reason is cost. It's much cheaper to train kids in sports like soccer, basketball and even baseball than to start with peweee football then move on up.

And finally the stop and go nature doesn't appeal to people that like the continuous action of soccer, rugby, basketball, hockey, etc.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by BRUNNIN4
DFW
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:08 am to
quote:

England is the one exception to this (as they are boorish idiots as well), and not surprisingly American Football is most popular there of all places outside of North America


According to the internet, it's more popular in Germany as far as Europe goes. The Independent ABC News

Plus the attendance for the German NFL Europa teams was always the best but I cant find a link.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 9:10 am
Posted by EasterEgg
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:08 am to
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We have a reputation around the world as being boorish idiots, this doesn't make people want to go out of their way to learn our culture. England is the one exception to this (as they are boorish idiots as well)

Posted by EasterEgg
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:08 am to
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This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:11 am to
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#3 It's American. We have a reputation around the world as being boorish idiots, this doesn't make people want to go out of their way to learn our culture. England is the one exception to this (as they are boorish idiots as well), and not surprisingly American Football is most popular there of all places outside of North America. Even there a lot of people complain that it's too complicated, too much stop start, and don't see why the players need "all that armor"


I don't think this is a reason, honestly. Firstly, soccer spread through interaction with sailors, expats, and students. Countries where the British had a settler presence generally play cricket or rugby preferentially, as those were regarded as upper-class sports while soccer was working-class. The clubs that were established in each country were mostly specific to neighborhoods, and thus neighborhood identity became closely linked to club identity. The growth of the sport was organic.

American culture has spread in an entirely different way, not through direct imperialism or trade interaction, but through mass media. The dominant artistic forms currently are American, and have been American for a long time. Jazz is probably the earliest example, but 12-bar blues was extremely influential in rock'n'roll, and serves as a good example of an American cultural export. Fashion too, as the blue jean is nearly ubiquitous. The major cultural export of the US now is Hip-Hop, which has found its way into pretty much every country in the world. If boorishness was a good enough reason for people to not interact with American football, why wasn't it a good enough reason for them to take other cultural elements, from architecture to the plastic arts to music to fashion to literature to film (which again has been influenced by Americans far more than any other group)?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43309 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:55 am to
quote:

We have a reputation around the world as being boorish idiots



Posted by South Endzone Warrio
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
560 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

3 It's American. We have a reputation around the world as being boorish idiots, this doesn't make people want to go out of their way to learn our culture. England is the one exception to this (as they are boorish idiots as well), and not surprisingly American Football is most popular there of all places outside of North America. Even there a lot of people complain that it's too complicated, too much stop start, and don't see why the players need "all that armor"

Yep our entire country is built on a principle of violence.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:53 pm to
some of the interntional workers at disney wanted to watch american football. if they played a game of flag, and were taken to tailgate SEC school ( Sec can be racist), theyd enjoy football
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