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re: Vikings beat reporter on how Minnesota slowed down the Saints offense

Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:48 pm to
Well yea you’d hope he would be an improvement

Ruiz is a 20yr old & Warford is a multi time pro bowler & grown arse man

Saints have proven they can win with just adequate Guard play. So when I say it doesn’t matter, part of me doesn’t know how good he is right now & the other part knows they’ll win 10+ games regardless. Which makes the premium they’ve put on the position even that more curious
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:48 pm to
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Baldinger breaks down OL better than those two I think



He’s good at breaking down a lot of stuff
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:51 pm to
You have to think it boils down to a cheaper, younger player that is also an improvement


A similar yet not similar situation to what SF did with Buckner/Kinlaw

Though Warford isn’t close to the caliber of player Buckner is and Ruiz is most likely a much better option than Warford
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:14 pm to
They moved both DE's to DT and beat us right up the middle ALL game. ALL game. We never adjusted or were unable to adjust, and it was frustrating as hell to watch the game unfold. In SP I trust, good pick.
Posted by wil
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:25 pm to
1). Tackles did not play well but it was because MN attacked pass every play and they have very good DEs. Payton gives up on running in close games. Saints passed exactly 2 of every 3 plays in that game. Even though they averaged over 5 ½ yards per run attempt. Every game the Saints lost last year they ran less than 20 times I think. And in none of those games were they too far behind to keep running. And how did SF beat MN. They ran the ball down their throats. SF does not have a better Oline or backs than the Saints. Payton’s play calling lost that game. Not his Oline. Go ahead and flame away everyone. But the stats I gave are good.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:29 pm to
The playcalling is what it is when you don’t have players that can win 1 on 1
Posted by wil
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654 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:38 pm to
Your players can’t win one on one when they know what you are going to do. Just ask Les Miles.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:41 pm to
Which is why I think the trade into the 2nd is a WR not LB
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:49 pm to
I truly don't understand how Lester is this bad as a poster.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:54 pm to
Because, like so many on here, he fell in love with a handful of prospects, viewed them as essential (when the staff didn’t) and flipped the frick out when they passed on his guy


He also refuses to acknowledge when he’s wrong and it turns into a dick measuring contest
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:09 pm to
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Because, like so many on here, he fell in love with a handful of prospects, viewed them as essential (when the staff didn’t) and flipped the frick out when they passed on his guy


I wish I were that basic

I’ve literally had a guy like Robert Hunt as a sleeper pick at that spot. And several OTs were guys I thought they’d target. Wut. I wasn’t in love with any prospect & knew it would be wide open. You keep talking about WR... I said yesterday I didn’t think they’d go WR. Again, WUT

And you are the only person that has flipped out over this. You act like a child when we’re trying to have grown up conversations. Your accusations & perceptions about my motives have been quite laughable all day. To a point I can’t even respond to your foolishness
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Midnight Tragedies
Lake Pontchartrain
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:10 pm to
I wonder if we draft Pittman or a WR if people will stop bitching
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31643 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:12 pm to
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And you are the only person that has flipped out over this. You act like a child when we’re trying to have grown up conversations. Your accusations & perceptions about my motives have been quite laughable all day. To a point I can’t even respond to your foolishness


Because I can’t believe a person would be as arrogant and narcissistic to assume they know more than the coaches and scouts that have brought us so many great players and so many great seasons.

It’s also laughable you think Warford wasn’t a big reason we lost that playoff game. He wasn’t the only reason but he was a big part of it. He was a big part of several losses over the last two years.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:15 pm to
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I’ve literally had a guy like Robert Hunt as a sleeper pick at that spot. And several OTs were guys I thought they’d target. Wut. I wasn’t in love with any prospect & knew it would be wide open. You keep talking about WR... I said yesterday I didn’t think they’d go WR.



Never mentioned WR. I was talking about Queen. You’ve mentioned several times you loved Queen and wanted him. You say you were wide open but you had your mind made up.

Clearly Payton didn’t feel great about Hunt. I’ll go with the guy who has given us Evans, Nicks, Armstead, Peat, Ram and McCoy over you.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278989 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:18 pm to
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Because I can’t believe a person would be as arrogant and narcissistic to assume they know more than the coaches and scouts that have brought us so many great players and so many great seasons.


You take my opinion too seriously if you believe that I think I know more than coaches or scouts. Have you never disagreed with a coaching move? Or a play call? Im sure I could find a criticism with a quick search. Then are we in the same boat? We both think we know more than the coach? How stupid.

I just don’t think the need is there based on what they’ve spent to address that position over the last year.

Ive said I like the player.

I’ve said that corresponding moves could change my mind.

I don’t know how I could be any more fair. It’s like you don’t even read what I type.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278989 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:21 pm to
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You’ve mentioned several times you loved Queen and wanted him. You say you were wide open but you had your mind made up.


I would have been happy with a number of players. Queen was one of them. I don’t marry myself to any player which just makes your comments even more ridiculous

I made of list yesterday of 10 guys & said I would bet that the pick very easily could not be on my list (which is exactly what happened). To think I wasn’t prepared for something like this is just talking out of your arse
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Midnight Tragedies
Lake Pontchartrain
Member since Apr 2020
120 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:24 pm to
Good teams don’t draft based on need


See the Cowboys with Lamb. I wonder if the 49er fans were bitching last year when all the DL they took in the first round for the last 4 years started fricking destroying people. And now they drafted another one. You win with QBs and the trenches. Bottom line.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
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31643 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:25 pm to
Bookmarking the thread for when Ruiz is named a Pro Bowler
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278989 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:36 pm to
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Good teams don’t draft based on need


There’s too many layers to “need” to make that blanket statement. I agree with the premise, though.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278989 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:36 pm to
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Bookmarking the thread for when Ruiz is named a Pro Bowler



Good. Then we can come back & talk about how I think he’s a good player. That’ll be fun
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