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PPP Payroll Allocation
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:06 am
Does the 75% of previous payroll amount have to go to the employees who were on staff before all of this or can you hire someone new and pay what the previous person was making and still have the loan money forgiven? Have an employee that is not ready to come back to work due to a temporary position she got elsewhere but wants to come back in the future once that position is no longer available. But my concern is if I hire someone new and pay them instead, that money will not be forgivable since it wasn’t being paid to the employee I laid off when all of this began
Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:00 pm to lesgeaux
It shouldn't matter who you're paying, as long as you legitimately paid it and you don't exceed the limit for each individual employee.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:20 pm to lesgeaux
You can't reduce headcount and you can't reduce pay by more than a percentage.
You can pay a different person. Otherwise, forgiveness would be tough.
You can pay a different person. Otherwise, forgiveness would be tough.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:06 pm to lesgeaux
It doesn't have to be the same person, just the same FTE head count for whichever period you designate. Also, you have until 6/30/2020 to accomplish this. The one thing i am not sure of is,,,,,if you are -1 head count when you get the ppp and your 8 weeks is up before 6/30, how the heck does that work?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:30 pm to lesgeaux
We received funding in the first round of PPP. We are keeping a running total of our payroll and other forgivable costs (rent, utilites).
Once we get to week 6 or so if we look like we won't spend the full allocation, we will look at paying commissions/bonuses etc. to our employees as a form of "hazard pay" in order to maximize our use of the forgivable loan.
Once we get to week 6 or so if we look like we won't spend the full allocation, we will look at paying commissions/bonuses etc. to our employees as a form of "hazard pay" in order to maximize our use of the forgivable loan.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:10 pm to lesgeaux
Whatever you don’t use on payroll, utilities and rent you give back or pay back.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:21 pm to lesgeaux
I talked to our CPA at length about this yesterday and all the comments in here are correct. If your FTE is 10, you may want to hire 2-3 extra people for the next 8 weeks just to make sure your head count is above your baseline. Also, make sure that you understand what non-payroll you're allowed to pay. Everyone knows rent and utilities but there are also approved expenditures for transportation and interest payments. The transportation has not been clarified yet, but my assumption would be that any gas that is used for company vehicles is an approved expense.
We are also keeping a spreadsheet of all expenditures over the next 8 weeks that would apply and will be paying out commissions to some of our people to ensure we come as close to our loan as possible.
We are also keeping a spreadsheet of all expenditures over the next 8 weeks that would apply and will be paying out commissions to some of our people to ensure we come as close to our loan as possible.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:51 pm to lesgeaux
I’m in similar situation. My receptionist said she’s making more on unemployment than she would working with me and asked me if she can stay home until the $600 kicker expires and in the meantime I can “hire” my wife and pay her. Don’t know what I’m gonna do
ETA: needless to say I’m gonna fire her for being a lazy, system-abusing piece of crap
ETA: needless to say I’m gonna fire her for being a lazy, system-abusing piece of crap
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:30 pm to lesgeaux
Watch the head count & FTEs.
An educated guess says these parameters will change. They just will not work for all industries like restaurants and bars. Now I would not bet on it, but I really think changes are coming.
An educated guess says these parameters will change. They just will not work for all industries like restaurants and bars. Now I would not bet on it, but I really think changes are coming.
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