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re: So all the new science is pointing out COVID isn't as bad as the normal Flu

Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:42 pm to
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But the main point isn’t even that. Let’s say this mitigation is the same as a vaccination campaign as far as impact goes.


That’s my point. It isnt the same impact, not even close. Social distancing does not mitigate severity, or incidence. Flu vaccines do.

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Amazing how that suddenly went away now it only slightly trails behind heart disease on a week to week mortality tracking.

Heart disease killed ~165 per 100k....COVID kills is ~4/100k. If you think that is close IDK what to say.

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That it’s just like the flu, like you’ve always said because you can’t be wrong, but really the flu is this really really bad pathogen that we’ve only marginalized to nothing significant because the flu has been mitigated by vaccines that we have concentrated on the most vulnerable.

My point is that COVID is roughly equivalent to a moderate-mean flu season. Ive plainly stated that multiple times. Except we actually have significant mitigation measures in place for the flu. Social distancing doesnt do shite for severity/mortality of COVID, it only stretches out the timeframe, it wont reduce total # of infections or mortality.

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Well shite son, you’ve sold me. In the absence of a vaccine you’ve proven the value of these draconian and borderline unconstitutional containment measures.

If you think this is the point I’ve been making in the slightest, I’m concerned about your reading comprehension. Vaccines >>>> unprecedented social distancing in terms of severity and incidence. More is done in terms of mitigating flu than COVID.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51948 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:53 pm to
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Social distancing does not mitigate severity, or incidence


If you dont think staying in your house and avoiding interactions with anyone with a week plus doesn’t lower incidence of infection, I don’t know what to say.

Obviously further discussion is pointless

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Social distancing doesnt do shite for severity/mortality of COVID, it only stretches out the timeframe, it wont reduce total # of infections or mortality.


Except for the reality that mortality shoots through the roof in multiple places where population density causes a flood of cases.

For what you say to be true, you wouldn’t see the pattern in multiple countries of a localized area accounting for a disproportionate portion of mortality vs population.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 10:25 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:52 pm to
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My point is that COVID is roughly equivalent to a moderate-mean flu season. Ive plainly stated that multiple times.


A moderate mean flu season in the US is 30k-40k over a 6-7 month period.



We're at 40k in one month. You can deny it all you want, but the your feelings that it's just the flu don't conform with the facts. It's completely ok to be wrong.
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