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To those who say you can’t compare CV19 to H1N1

Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10224 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:21 pm
If, at the end of this, US deaths end up less than H1N1 (roughly 12,000) then wouldn’t that be a massive success? We keep hearing this is so much worse than H1N1, which justifies the closures, panic, etc. But if we end up at say 5,000 deaths, then what?

FTR we are at 500 right now.
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7977 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:23 pm to
You can’t compare since H1N1 was way worse
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13594 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:31 pm to
Have you not heard? Scientists unanimously agree millions will die, we have to shut down the economy. If it saves one life it’ll be worth it.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:32 pm to
US deaths from COVID19 will be dramatically lower than H1N1. Wuhan virus has below 1000 deaths after 4-5 months (we’ve only been testing for 1-2 months the virus has been here longer than we began testing.)

H1n1 over 12k deaths in 13 months. Will be ~2x higher than wuhan virus death toll.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:33 pm to
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wouldn’t that be a massive success?


Yes. I'm glad we didn't ignore it and hope it would go away because people were stupid enough to compare this to the common flu.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35474 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:35 pm to
Hard to say. The southern US and Mexico were the epicenter of H1N1 and it was widespread before it was discovered. With CV19 we had several weeks notice and could have accepted tests before community spread happened.

However, CV19 is far more deadly and being above 500 deaths now tells me that holding this to 5k deaths may be just wishful thinking at this point.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14260 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:48 pm to
I think it will be worse if we don’t develop a treatment. But not by a huge factor.
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
Wherever I’m needed
Member since Dec 2019
1364 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:00 pm to
Exponential growth patterns actually prove that Over 10 million will be dead before April is over
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20927 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

FTR we are at 500 right now.


We were at 566 as of midnight GMT. 132 people also died today, higher than yesterday, and yesterday was higher than the day before.

How many people did H1N1 kill on a daily basis?
Posted by Morgus
The Old City Icehouse
Member since May 2004
9123 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:05 pm to
If we shut everything down and only 5,000 die, will you admit that the number would have been higher if we hadn't?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

If, at the end of this, US deaths end up less than H1N1 (roughly 12,000) then wouldn’t that be a massive success? We keep hearing this is so much worse than H1N1, which justifies the closures, panic, etc. But if we end up at say 5,000 deaths, then what?

FTR we are at 500 right now.

I don’t think 15000-20000 is a crazy number when you compare it to what the flu can do in a given year. I’d like to hear SFP’s prediction. He’s spent the past few days haranguing the Poli Talk board about this being the second coming of the Black Death.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15362 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:15 pm to
The natural response to this will be something like, “ are you belittling the deaths from
Covid!?!?” Or someone’s grandma who passed in a nursing home will chime in.



I’d love to post this on Facebook after it’s all said and done.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3518 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:21 am to
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To those who say you can’t compare CV19 to H1N1



I think it is an apt comparison to the original H1N1 pandemic in 1918.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

FTR we are at 500 right now.


And here we are just 4 days later at 1695 with the daily death tolls likely to still rise.

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