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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:19 am to slackster
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:19 am to slackster
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Oh, wait. 88 cases. No deaths. The rest of the world lieing too?
The rest of those cases have just started. It will be another 2 weeks before we know how quickly this spreads and the true mortality rate in a western system. Also consider that the mortality rate will be at its best when its a handful of cases that are easy to provide full attention and treatment.
What happens with the cases in Germany will tell us a lot. Everyone on here assumed that the German case where it involved a Chinese trainer and trainee was due to some kind of sexual interaction. Now there are three more cases from that same group that seems unlikely. Obviously this thing can infect anyone with asymptomatic coronavirus carriers, and it must be pretty easily spread. Our best hope is that the mortality rate is closer to the flu, because this likely won't be contained if it is passed this easily.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:21 am to Man With A Plan
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There is absolutely zero treatment or cure for this
Well that’s just a lie.
It’s too early to have a definitive standard of care, that is true.
But it was known and published last week that protease inhibitors and interferon beta have shown efficacy against the virus itself and the drugs are already on market.
Also ignoring that the primary pathologies associated with morbidity is due to complications of pneumonia rather than viral damage leading to organ failure and there are reams of data of supportive care in those situations.
Limiting factor there isn’t knowledge or ability, but scarity of equipment in a widespread infection.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 7:39 am
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:25 am to rds dc
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#Sudan suspects two Sudanese people coming from #China are infected with the new #coronavirus - minister (via @Reuters)
I would hope that’s a typo and they didn’t let these people fly with the suspected virus
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:59 am to BallsEleven
So UAE and Africa have confirmed cases now? Not a big deal, as I figure any major locale will have at least one case.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:06 am to rds dc
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Something seems to not be adding up. It would seem like the infection rate in China would have to be higher for the virus to be showing up just about anywhere that has travelers from China. At least for now, the good thing is that it doesn't appear to be spreading as rapidly outside of China.
I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I think it has to do with screening. It's alot easier for other countries to look for it in travelers coming from China than it is for China to actively screen and catch every single case, including the mild ones.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:10 am to RATeamWannabe
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I’m willing to bet the rest of the world knows how to spell “lying”
Touche.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:11 am to slackster
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It's alot easier for other countries to look for it in travelers coming from China than it is for China to actively screen and catch every single case, including the mild ones.
It is easier, but it wasn’t until a day ago that the US started screening...
Whereas when you go through HK airport, they are ALWAYS temp screening.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:15 am to Lsut81
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It is easier, but it wasn’t until a day ago that the US started screening...
Whereas when you go through HK airport, they are ALWAYS temp screening.
I should have used a better word than screening. The CDC has focusing on travelers who had been to Wuhan prior to the active screening being done in airports. Point is that the rest of the world is actively looking for cases while China is pretty clearly reacting to cases.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:17 am to slackster
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China is pretty clearly reacting to cases.
Agree, but it’s so difficult in a major Chinese city. They have 5+ cities that are bigger than NYC and dirty as hell.
Don’t know if you’ve been to China, but easy to understand how things like this spread so fast.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:21 am to Lsut81
Chinese officials are not being factual about the number infected or total deaths. Soft estimates are probably well over 100k infected and well over 1000 deaths to have had positive cases on almost every continent by now. Also the December time frame for discovery is probably more like the week before Thanksgiving as a more reasonable date to explain the actual incubation and spread to date.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:24 am to Jim Rockford
Japan's 8th confirmed case is a woman who has never been to Wuhan and was infected on the same bus as the driver so this is the 2nd human to human transmission in Japan.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:25 am to Burhead
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Japan's 8th confirmed case is a woman who has never been to Wuhan and was infected on the same bus as the driver so this is the 2nd human to human transmission in Japan.
Wtf was going on on that bus... no other h2h cases like that in the world, yet two in Japan... was someone actively spitting on people?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:31 am to Houdini
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Chinese officials are not being factual about the number infected or total deaths. Soft estimates are probably well over 100k infected and well over 1000 deaths to have had positive cases on almost every continent by now.
Link?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:54 am to Lsut81
What about the ones in Germany?
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:55 am to Lsut81
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FYI, the last few stores I’ve been in the last two days, grocery and pharmacy, have been sold out of respirators.
People already buying up all the face masks in case.
you can also buy them and hardware and paint stores which most people won't think to go to if you are inclined to get the face masks. I am sitting on a gold mine in my safety cabinet as we speak.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:02 am to Lsut81
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Wtf was going on on that bus... no other h2h cases like that in the world, yet two in Japan... was someone actively spitting on people?
3 of the 4 cases in Germany were h2h cases in Germany when the original infected person was asymptomatic.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:12 am to CivilTiger83
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3 of the 4 cases in Germany were h2h cases in Germany when the original infected person was asymptomatic.
LINK
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 10:02 am
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:20 am to slackster
No link and down vote it all you want. Fact is China is not being truthful and down playing numbers on reports but up scaling activity that warrants an outbreak far worse than the simple basic flu numbers given. It’s on basically every continent now, it’s spread quick with H2H on 3 continents. In less than 2 weeks from first report...BS. Not how this works. Standby and watch over the next 7 days what I’m telling you.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:24 am to Perrydawg
Any self-respecting plant baw has a P-100 multi-gas respirator already.
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