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re: Drew Brees omitted from NFL’s all-time team
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:09 pm to BayouCatFan
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:09 pm to BayouCatFan
quote:Not sure how since Brees compares very favorably.
People comparing Brees to Elway is laughable
quote:Why, just cause?
while Brees on those early Denver teams would have been a bust
quote:That number is incorrect.
hile Brees has a 1-7 career road playoff record.
quote:Brees avg score 25-32. Elway's avg score 17-22
Not only that but Elway was always clutch, while Brees has a 1-7 career road playoff record.
Brees led offenses averaged more than a TD than Elway. The MOST Elway ever scored on the road was 24, less than the Brees average.
But Elway gets the clutch tag solely because he had better defenses.
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Yet in 1 of those seasons they had the #1 defense, #6 rushing offense, and the passing game was the weakest part of the team, and we STILL say Elway took that "ok" team to the Super Bowl....why?
I didn’t say they were shite, I said they were okay.
quote:The #1 Defense in the league is the #1 defense in the league.
Stats only tell part of the story.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:11 pm to slackster
quote:Right, so even if you thought he was a bit better, no one in their right mind takes 114 games of a little better over 273 games of a tad worse.
He did. Only started 114 games in 10 seasons.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:13 pm to VADawg
quote:Disagree. If you don't play, you don't play. You can't get credit for not playing, no matter what the reason is.
I'm not arguing for Staubach over Brees, but I do think his military service delaying his career should be considered and not counted against him.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:13 pm to shel311
Brees owns every record in the book... but not surprising he gets left off. Par for the course. It’s all good though, extra motivation for the goat.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:14 pm to BowlJackson
quote:
Who are your top 10 college QBs of all time?
Timmy Chang
Landry Jones
Graham Harrell
Luke Falk
Colt Brennan
Obviously thats half your top 10 right, those guys go without saying. Just look at their records
Just to point out the absurdity of this, this is the NFL career passing TD progression since 1950:
Sammy Baugh
YA Tittle
Johnny Unitas
Fran Tarkenton
Dan Marino
Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Compare that list to your asinine take.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:14 pm to slackster
The fact you've convinced yourself there's some significant difference is sad.
A system QB is a system QB at any level. Brees was average before he linked up with Sean Payton
A system QB is a system QB at any level. Brees was average before he linked up with Sean Payton
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:14 pm to shel311
quote:
Drew compares more favorably than Brady, Manning and Favre, so they should be off the list, I guess?
If you just went and grabbed QB rating for those three and are comparing it at face value to Brees that would be incredibly low IQ shelly
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:16 pm to jlntiger
quote:The stats/data/facts disagree.
It’s really not . Elway is just better
quote:Team stat. Should Eli be on the list over Favre?
Went to more Super Bowls won more Super Bowls
quote:And better vs the avg player than Elway was vs the avg player in his day.
Drew is a product of the game today
quote:lol
I mean Bree’s is good but he isn’t top 10 of all time .
quote:So Manning and Brady wouldn't make it either, and they had rule changes too, so your logic dictates you feel they should come off the list too.
Plus if Drew played went Starbuach did I don’t think drew makes it 10 years . Do people realize how protected qb’s are now ? Plus the rule changes that favor offenses .
quote:I speak in facts, you speak in generalities and opinions. I don't care who the committee is, I make my own opinions. You should too...only you should use the data, not just say things just cause with no justification or anything to back it up.
ETA . They just had a committee of no bodies vote on this . Take off your homer glasses
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:17 pm to Bench McElroy
Can saints fans stop slobbing this guys knob? Joe Flacco has just as many Super Bowlz as Drew brees, I’d rather flacco
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:17 pm to BowlJackson
quote:
The fact you've convinced yourself there's some significant difference is sad.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:17 pm to jlntiger
quote:
It’s really not . Elway is just better . Went to more Super Bowls won more Super Bowls . Drew is a product of the game today . Bridgewater went undefeated replacing him .
Oh dear Lord.
Uses team stats to prop up Elway, but holds team stat of Bridgewater going undefeated to downgrade Drew.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:17 pm to BowlJackson
quote:
Brees was average before he linked up with Sean Payton
Oh boy...
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:18 pm to Bench McElroy
Disgusting.
Anyone denying the clear cut, anti-Brees agenda that the northeast media (who controls all of these bogus “list”) has for Brees is just in denial or clueless.
Brees is top 5 of all time. Leaving him off the top 10 list is absolutely despicable.
Anyone denying the clear cut, anti-Brees agenda that the northeast media (who controls all of these bogus “list”) has for Brees is just in denial or clueless.
Brees is top 5 of all time. Leaving him off the top 10 list is absolutely despicable.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:19 pm to BowlJackson
quote:
The fact you've convinced yourself there's some significant difference is sad.
One list is the who's who of GOAT QBs, another list has Timmy Cheng on it.
quote:
BowlJackson
Aren't you the guy who has Cam as a HOF lock?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:20 pm to MusclesofBrussels
quote:The sooner folks start realizing that Brees compares every bit favorably to Brady and Manning across the board, the better off we'll be.
If you just went and grabbed QB rating for those three and are comparing it at face value to Brees that would be incredibly low IQ shelly
Between Brees/Brady/Manning, here's where Brees ranks:
TD% 2nd
INT% 2nd
Passer rating 1st
Completion % 1st
YPA 2nd
Not sure if you just never looked or what, but it seems you assumed Brees would be 3rd in the bulk of those numbers...he is not.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:20 pm to jlntiger
quote:The thing the committee might actually think Brees is a top 10 QB. If you look at these lists and the fact that’s a celebration of the league’s history, then you can see that they were purposely trying to include only a small number of players from each era. So Brees and Rodgers were essentially competing were Brady and Manning for the 2 spots of this era.
They just had a committee of no bodies vote on this . Take off your homer glasses
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:22 pm to ZIGG
I’ll be straight up honest. I’ll slap the frick out of someone that tries to tell me brees isn’t a top 5 much less top 10 qb all time. It is not a defensible position and definitely means you aint man enough to respond.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:23 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:This.
The thing the committee might actually think Brees is a top 10 QB. If you look at these lists and the fact that’s a celebration of the league’s history, then you can see that they were purposely trying to include only a small number of players from each era. So Brees and Rodgers were essentially competing were Brady and Manning for the 2 spots of this era.
I went to the NFL's official site for this a few minutes ago, and nowhere in there does it say the best 10 QBs. It says just what you said, celebrating the history of the game. So they couldn't leave out an era, they had to choose pretty evenly across eras.
If you want to do it that way fine, but let's make sure everyone in here recognizes it's not a top 10 best QBs list, which we all obviously are arguing simply top 10, not a celebration of the history of the game.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:26 pm to shel311
I made my own opinions and Drew isn’t top 15 in my world . At the end of the day the committee agreed . Y’all like Drew I get it seems like a great guy but he is not a top 10 QB in the history of the NFL
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