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re: Is it a lie that Rispone wants to get rid of the homestead exemption????
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:46 am to LSUgrad1998
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:46 am to LSUgrad1998
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It's speculation
Exactly, and Edwards' people are creating a straw man.
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Why do you think the Sheriff's Association has endorsed JBE?
Most sheriffs have their roots in the Democrat Party
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Rispone’s allies have suggested: Ending a constitutional requirement that the state give nearly 12,000 municipal law enforcement and firefighters $500 per month in a salary supplement beyond their local pa
The state should quit funding local services and cut our taxes.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:48 am to LSUgrad1998
Approving a whole slate of individual changes in one go is a problem with that process because they are all tied together.
Hence approving a whole constitutional change to ensure that any attempt to, say, dump one set of taxes and replace them with another doesn’t end up either keeping both taxes or repealing one and not passing the other.
Hence approving a whole constitutional change to ensure that any attempt to, say, dump one set of taxes and replace them with another doesn’t end up either keeping both taxes or repealing one and not passing the other.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:50 am to LSUgrad1998
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That is true. But again Rispone wishes to make changes to areas that were approved by voters already as amendments to protect such areas.
The entire Constitution was approved by voters.
Many agree it's not a good constitution and it's way too big.
We can change it again. It's not like it can't be done or there will be armagedon. We've had 11 already.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:51 am to BigJim
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municipal property taxes
Municiapal meaning city and not parishwide?
TIA
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:51 am to TDsngumbo
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Well I’ll be dammed. I live in Ascension where the incoming parish president and council want to make huge improvements to infrastructure (which is needed) but I’m not confident that they would keep the homestead exemption at $75k if the state gets rid of it. They could really use that extra money right now to fund their ideas while saying they didn’t increase our taxes, the state did. And our voters here in Ascension are just dumb enough to believe that, too.
If you don't trust the voters it doesn't really matter who is governor (or parish president or whatever).
That said, most property tax reforms come with a millage adjustment provision. So if more people get taxed, the millages could be adjusted downward to make the change revenue neutral. Of course that might still be up to the local governing body.
But there is a bigger issue. You say you agree that infrastructure improvements are needed. But you don't want to lower the homestead to pay for them. Are you will to pass a tax? Because unless you live in a shack, you are probably better off lowering/eliminating/adjusting the homestead.
I like the idea of making the homestead exempt property from $25k-$75k (or something like that). So everybody pays something. And then each locality could decide to do that to raise money or on a tax neutral basis.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:52 am to LSUgrad1998
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Yes. His plan is to turn control of the homestead exemption to your local parish. Then your parish police jury will decide whether to reduce or eliminate the exemption. They can't legally increase it above the 75K. So what would your parish do? Reducing it allows for more local taxes, but allows Rispone to say he technically didn't raise your taxes the parish did. More gimmicks, smoke and mirrors like Jindal did in office.
Generally it is a good thing for citizens when more of their politics are controlled locally. They can have a more active voice and input in the local bureaucracy versus the state or federal one. Removing layers of government is a positive. The exemption as it is allows a lot of people to have no skin in the property tax game anyhow.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:52 am to LSUgrad1998
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Amendments/changes to the constitution have been on-going since the 1970's. Nearly every election year, voters are asked to approve numerous amendments to the constitution. To imply that all changes were made in the 1970's is disingenuous.
Pretending the current 1974 Constiution is "sacred" also disingenuous. We've had 11 state Constitutions.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:54 am to BigJim
I could agree with that because, as mentioned upthread, one of the single biggest problems in this state is that property tax votes are mainly carried out by individuals who pay little to nothing in *direct* property tax thanks to living in hovels or apartments.
Since they don’t feel the pinch of a tax increase, they will vote for them for all kinds of reasons, such as a corrupt and incompetent bus system or Dem slush fund “Council on Aging”.
Since they don’t feel the pinch of a tax increase, they will vote for them for all kinds of reasons, such as a corrupt and incompetent bus system or Dem slush fund “Council on Aging”.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:04 am to BigJim
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But there is a bigger issue. You say you agree that infrastructure improvements are needed. But you don't want to lower the homestead to pay for them. Are you will to pass a tax?
No, I'm not willing to pass a new tax to get that done. Ascension Parish is wasting lots of money that can be used to pay for improvements. The money is already there. We just need someone who's got the balls to make cuts here and there to reallocate the funds. Hopefully Cointment is that guy.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:27 am to doubleb
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Municiapal meaning city and not parishwide?
yes (well, incorporated areas)
Art VII sec 20 (A) (9) LINK
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(9) This exemption shall not extend to municipal taxes. However, the exemptions shall apply (a) in Orleans Parish, to state, general city, school, levee, and levee district taxes and (b) to any municipal taxes levied for school purposes.
NO is always different!
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:30 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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More Democrat scare tactics.
This times a billion.
Louisiana's homestead exemption is teetering on disaster anyway. I bet there are thousands of properties (maybe hundreds of thousands) that go untaxed and, maybe more importantly, thousands of able-bodied residents who pay next to nothing in taxes in any form but use government services at a high rate. Basically, taxpayers who also pay property taxes continue to get very little return for their money (schools and roads are a joke in many places all over our state).
What Louisiana does now just isn't working that great. Is it too much to ask of our state and local government to maybe consider trying something different? Maybe...just maybe...give taxpayers a little more return on their hard earned contributions to society?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:48 am to doubleb
I would agree with that. The problem I have is with Rispone's silence. Let the citizens of Louisiana know specifically which areas of the Constitution do you support changing, and what changes will you advocate, then let them decide if they wish to elect you as governor or not. What areas of the constitution are you open to changing, and what areas are off limits? Why all the secrecy? Be transparent. If you can't be clear, concise and transparent with your ideas before the election, why should voters believe you would then be all that after the election.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:59 am to LSUgrad1998
Trading state taxes for taxes at the parish level is still TAXES. It's semantics. As governor I lowered your state taxes, but it was your local government that kept them or increased them. If you want to cut taxes then let's really cut them, and services. Just state what taxes and services are on the chopping block. Be Transparent!
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:02 am to LSUgrad1998
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I would agree with that. The problem I have is with Rispone's silence. Let the citizens of Louisiana know specifically which areas of the Constitution do you support changing, and what changes will you advocate, then let them decide if they wish to elect you as governor or not. What areas of the constitution are you open to changing, and what areas are off limits? Why all the secrecy? Be transparent. If you can't be clear, concise and transparent with your ideas before the election, why should voters believe you would then be all that after the election.
I remember back in 74 the Constitution evolved. EWE didn't walk into the room and say here's what we're doing, and they all voted yes.
There is no specific plan to change the Constitution, there are just principles involved.
The Constitution we have now puts the state right in the middle of local business. It protects certain groups from spending cuts and in tough times makes other groups the sacrificial lamb.
It also supports a tax code that has proven not to be competitive with other southern states.
Rispone has said all of that, and he knows that changes to a new Constitution have to be negotiated. It's not like the Governor can dictate things, he has to have a coalition on his side.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:05 am to LSUgrad1998
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Trading state taxes for taxes at the parish level is still TAXES. It's semantics. As governor I lowered your state taxes, but it was your local government that kept them or increased them. If you want to cut taxes then let's really cut them, and services. Just state what taxes and services are on the chopping block. Be Transparent!
It allows each parish or municipal govt. to tax their citizens as they wish, at the level they wish, and not have to beg the state for funds or fight for their "share".
A Governor like Edwards doesn't want change, he wants to hand out the pork. Rispone realizes it's a bad system, and wants to end it.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:06 am to teke184
Getting rid of Sec.8 is intriguing.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:07 am to doubleb
The secrecy now won't bode well later when asking voters to ratify any changes. No way voters will pass changes to the homestead exemption. There are to many homeowners and elderly on fixed incomes that need/want that tax break given on the first 75K value of their home" currently on the books. So if their home is worth 150K, then they pay taxes on only 75K of it's value.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:12 am to chalmetteowl
Uhhh it would be a good idea.
Get rid of the homestead exemption and lower millages.
Getting rid of the exemption <=> higher taxes.
Getting rid of the exemption will spread the tax revenue over more property. The millages would go down on the same revenue.
I suspect people with $200K houses would actually see a property tax reduction fi the exemption was eliminated and total tax collections by the government were held the same as last year.
Get rid of the homestead exemption and lower millages.
Getting rid of the exemption <=> higher taxes.
Getting rid of the exemption will spread the tax revenue over more property. The millages would go down on the same revenue.
I suspect people with $200K houses would actually see a property tax reduction fi the exemption was eliminated and total tax collections by the government were held the same as last year.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:14 am to BigJim
I'm all for eliminating the homestead exemption if it means ending much of the state support for public schools and letting each parish decide how much they want to spend on them.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:14 am to I B Freeman
“But Rispone would be raising taxes on the poor!”
“But it’s only $5 when they were paying $0 before...”
“But it’s only $5 when they were paying $0 before...”
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