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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society

Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Of course it is. The logical outflowing of atheism is that there is no objective moral standard and no inherent human value. What kind of society are you going to have when you claim a utilitarian view of existence? The kind that says the ends justify the means.


If humans are incapable of looking within to know what is right and what is wrong, then how do humans know that what religion tells us is “right?”
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 2:21 pm to
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If humans are incapable of looking within to know what is right and what is wrong, then how do humans know that what religion tells us is “right?”
Humans are capable of knowing right from wrong because we're made in the image of God with His moral law written on our hearts. My worldview can account for this.

In a worldview that denies God, morality can only exist in the minds of the individual and therefore it can't be a transcendent truth or reality that all people are accountable to or can judge their own moral standards by.

If you believe that humans can look within to know right and wrong without the Biblical God, then you have to agree that each human can look within and find their own version of moral truth.

If every person can have their own version of moral truth then there cannot objectively be one right or one wrong version of morality that exists for humanity. And without an objectively right standard of morality, each individual moral standard is neither right nor wrong, just a different interpretation for each individual, meaning that they are all equally valid to one another. That means Hitler's moral standard that he received by looking within is equal in validity to Gandhi's moral standard.

This reduces morality to nothing more than a convention determined by each individual, or as I and others like to say, a preference rather than a actual moral ought.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:45 pm to
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If humans are incapable of looking within to know what is right and what is wrong,


SO your parents didn't have to teach you not to take other kids toys? To play nice? Now just imagine if there wasn't any consequence to doing "wrong". Stealing, murder, rape, nothing. Would you still be the same person you are right now?
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