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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society

Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:07 pm to
Of course it is. The logical outflowing of atheism is that there is no objective moral standard and no inherent human value. What kind of society are you going to have when you claim a utilitarian view of existence? The kind that says the ends justify the means.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Of course it is. The logical outflowing of atheism is that there is no objective moral standard and no inherent human value. What kind of society are you going to have when you claim a utilitarian view of existence? The kind that says the ends justify the means.


If humans are incapable of looking within to know what is right and what is wrong, then how do humans know that what religion tells us is “right?”
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Of course it is. The logical outflowing of atheism is that there is no objective moral standard and no inherent human value. What kind of society are you going to have when you claim a utilitarian view of existence? The kind that says the ends justify the means.


Not necessarily. Atheists recognize that morality is nothing more than accepted social contracts. Most of what dictates those social morals is time tested. We know what makes good society. Cooperation, Empathy, and Compassion are far more likely to lead to successful civilization than Murder, Haterd, and Violence.

It doesn't take a Religious experience to know these things. Although, admittedly Christianity is one of the single best vehicles of the kind of morals that lead to successful civilizations. I love Christians and thank them for creating the greatest society ever known.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:21 pm to
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no inherent human value.
False

You're so fricking stupid
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Of course it is. The logical outflowing of atheism is that there is no objective moral standard and no inherent human value. What kind of society are you going to have when you claim a utilitarian view of existence? The kind that says the ends justify the means.


2Kings 2:23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 2Kings 2:24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
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