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Legal way to create open water in rice field?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:44 am
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:44 am
If I’m hunting a flooded rice field with standing rice(uncut) but want to create an open water area for ducks to land-it seems like there’s some gray area there in terms of legality. How can I do it so it’s not considered baiting?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 7:45 am to NorthEnd
buffalo the rice, but needed to do that before it was flooded.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:07 am to NorthEnd
Nutria on a leash tied to a steak
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:08 am to NorthEnd
Typically we buffalo or bush hog before the second crop heads out, or cut the first crop with your header all the way down. Honestly not sure what you can do at this point.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:14 am to jimbeam
If you figure a way please let us know. The nutria on a leash might be the only option
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:09 am to Outdoorreb
According to all I've heard, if it's unharvested you can't manipulate it at all. If it's on second crop, maybe you can roll it down. We've used a 6' long pipe (bollard) drug behind a 4 wheeler before to roll down the stubble. Of course that's after harvest.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:20 am to mylsuhat
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Nutria on a leach tied to a steak
Wouldn't he just eat the steak?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:31 am to TheNolaClap
Nah, they don't like steak that much, it gets stuck between the big orange teeth
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:35 am to NorthEnd
Anything done that would not be considered a normal agricultural practice for rice production or crawfish production in flooded rice fields would put you jeopardy with the law. For example, if you were creating open area trapping lanes to place crawfish traps in flooded rice field of un-cut rice by using a wheeled crawfish combine to lay down the rice that would be considered by crawfish aquaculture experts a “normal” or common practice for crawfish production, although most trappers would rather cut trapping lanes prior to flooding. I wouldn’t be willing to potentially go to court over it if LDWF enforcement didn’t see it that way.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 12:17 pm to NorthEnd
If it’s second crop, does the farmer plan on harvesting it? If so just wait till it’s cut then buffalo or plow the entire cut and flood it. If he doesn’t plan on harvesting it, then I would consult wildlife and fisheries because it might be considered natural vegetation under the law if the first crop was harvested initially, but good luck getting a straight answer.
I think buffaloing rice stubble is a standard agricultural practice but being the rice is headed out, it could be considered baiting and I think the actual baiting law is setup to leave it up to the wardens discretion if you get checked.
I think buffaloing rice stubble is a standard agricultural practice but being the rice is headed out, it could be considered baiting and I think the actual baiting law is setup to leave it up to the wardens discretion if you get checked.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:03 pm to NorthEnd
Buffalo/Snake Charmer/Roller-Crimper/whatever you want to call it.
If it’s unharvested, you’ll just have to figure out a way to do it without making a noticeable footprint and claim it lodged or wind did it. A friend with a helicopter would come in handy as shite.
If it’s unharvested, you’ll just have to figure out a way to do it without making a noticeable footprint and claim it lodged or wind did it. A friend with a helicopter would come in handy as shite.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:00 pm to NorthEnd
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How can I do it so it’s not considered baiting?
If it's unharvested and flooded, you are kinda screwed because anything you do will be considered manipulation. Do you have geese in this area because if you do, they will wipe that shite out with the quickness and you will have nothing but barren open water in about 24 hours after they bulldoze it.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:28 pm to NorthEnd
Long story short, you're out of luck.
Last year when everything was going on with soybeans, I had a guy contact me asking for advice on a soybean field that had been plowed under for insurance purposes. The agent he talked to informed him that it would be considered baiting because it was not a normal agricultural practice.
Last year when everything was going on with soybeans, I had a guy contact me asking for advice on a soybean field that had been plowed under for insurance purposes. The agent he talked to informed him that it would be considered baiting because it was not a normal agricultural practice.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:42 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:This is his problem. Don't ask, don't tell.
The agent he talked to
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:48 pm to White Bear
It looks like rice that gets squashed though normal bird retrieval, decoy deployment etc. is acceptable. I guess I can ride around putting decoys out for an hour or so.
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