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Why is a lawyer interviewing people illegal?

Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:46 am
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:46 am
As a practicing atty, I’ve interviewed witnesses before. Not by deposing them. Not by subpoenaing them. Just interviewing them. Sometimes, I tape it. Sometimes, I’ve had a court reporter there. Sometimes, I just take notes. When I think someone may know something affecting my case, my first step isn’t a subpoena. It isn’t a deposition. I’ call them and talk with them and determine what they know about whatever it is that affects the interest of my client.

There are a limited supply of people I can’t contact - represented parties, people’s doctors. People who live in foreign countries aren’t on the list.

Rudy Guiliani meeting with people in foreign countries isn’t illegal.

It starts being illegal when Rudy gets a secret warrant and listens to their phone calls, or hacks into their emails.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:49 am to
I do not know that it is illegal, but do you not find it odd that the President of the United States is conducting the foreign policy of this nation using not a state department employee, but rather his personal attorney?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53778 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:52 am to
oh so Rudy is conducting foreign policy now?
Posted by RootUser
Member since Sep 2019
46 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:53 am to
Didn’t they ask to speak to Rudy? That was in the transcript.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:55 am to
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I do not know that it is illegal, but do you not find it odd that the President of the United States is conducting the foreign policy of this nation using not a state department employee, but rather his personal attorney?





It's very odd. It's odd because our FBI is disinterested in getting to the bottom of the 2016 MUH Russia Hoax. By getting to the bottom of the Hoax it exonerates Trump and implicates the FBI and CIA.

Guilani has to go around the FBI because they are GUILTY. Guiliani is doing what any good dense attorney would do for their client: investigate the matter to determine the facts that present an alternative fact pattern that exonerates your client.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4690 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:55 am to
You must not know anything about Eric Schmidt. You might want to look into him and his role throughout the Obama presidency. That’s what a private citizen conducting foreign policy looks like.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:55 am to
The state department asked Rudy AND Rudy is looking to clear his client of the bullshite accusations against him. He has an absolute right to do it and the President has an absolute right to defend his good name.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:56 am to
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Didn’t they ask to speak to Rudy?


Yes they did. Why? Because they tried to go through normal channels, U.S. Ambassador to the Ukraine to the FBI, but they were blocked.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:58 am to
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You must not know anything about Eric Schmidt. You might want to look into him and his role throughout the Obama presidency. That’s what a private citizen conducting foreign policy looks like.


You can add the names Cody Shearer and Sidney Bloomanthal to the Eric Schimdt name.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29678 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:00 am to
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I do not know that it is illegal, but do you not find it odd that the President of the United States is conducting the foreign policy of this nation using not a state department employee, but rather his personal attorney?
Seriously?

Why the frick would Trump trust anyone? Every goddamn agency, including his White House staff is infiltrated by leftists hacks.

You people act like Trump was gonna lead the fricking investigation himself and conduct interviews and write reports.

He was asking for their cooperation you twit.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:04 am to
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I do not know that it is illegal, but do you not find it odd that the President of the United States is conducting the foreign policy of this nation using not a state department employee, but rather his personal attorney?


Like Trump can trust any of these Deep State leaking snakes.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:05 am to
Now we know why Trump has not fired ds wray. He does not want the corrupt FBI controlling the investigation.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4690 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:07 am to
You can add both the Clintons, post office, to the list as well, through CGI/CF, and Soros through his many foundations. The difference with Schmidt was that it was very out in the open about what he was doing.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 9:08 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:07 am to
How many times do you need this spelled out for you?

Rudy is the personal counsel to the POTUS. He isn’t some family law attorney working on Don Jr’s next vacation home purchase. I wish our president didn’t need an attorney guarding him at all times, but thanks to partisans bent on removing him from office and jailing him over one false pretense after the other, he does. Secondly, the Ukrainians reached out to Rudy first. They involved him, because the “do nothing” DOJ wouldn’t take their calls - likely because of the ongoing Mueller investigation.

Another tragedy in this is that Trumps lawyers are telling him that he can’t even direct the DOJ to investigate because dems will lose their fricking shite. They are right. So, as Rudy explained in his interview with Steph, they put the paper trail out their in hopes that the DOJ would come to them. That’s where we are.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 9:16 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147389 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:09 am to
What should be front and center is our FBI turning down Ukraine. So they went to the State Dept and details that are not known yet had Rudy get a call to help.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:09 am to
So are you saying even Obama didn't trust the deep state?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54231 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:13 am to
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but do you not find it odd that the President of the United States is conducting the foreign policy of this nation using not a state department employee, but rather his personal attorney?




I wondered the same kind of thing about John Kerry going to Iran and talking policy with them as a private citizen after he was out of office. I find that even more egregious. Don't you?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:14 am to
Peter Schiff apparently sent a staffer to the Ukraine either to conduct clandestine foreign policy or investigate the WB complaint without the consent of the State department or WH.

Why aren’t people like ProggyHank or the media up in arms about that?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15466 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:15 am to
I would find it odd, if he were conducting foreign policy.

I do not find it odd or surprising or illegal or unethical that he learned this info in the course of Representing DJT in defense of the mueller investigation that involved Ukrainian witnesses.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4690 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:16 am to
Obama is the deep state. Take a little time to investigate Schmidt’s actions and you’ll find clear differences between his and Rudy’s actions. Personally speaking, I’m no fan of Rudy, but his actions don’t amount to shite compared to what’s been going on the last 20 years.
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