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re: 2019 Defense maybe the best ever?
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:15 am to Malaysian Tiger
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:15 am to Malaysian Tiger
Time to pump the breaks. The defense finished 5th in the SEC last year.
Sure -- getting Chaisson back helps. Yes, having a true NT helps. But the defense was actually quite bad against the run last year (7th in the SEC, 9th in the SEC against ranked opponents).
I expect this defense to be solid, but not one of the all-time greats.
Sure -- getting Chaisson back helps. Yes, having a true NT helps. But the defense was actually quite bad against the run last year (7th in the SEC, 9th in the SEC against ranked opponents).
I expect this defense to be solid, but not one of the all-time greats.
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:28 am to Malaysian Tiger
It could possibly be a great defense, but it won't be more than a middle of the pack defense unless the defensive line is better.
We haven't seen a Glenn Dorsey, Michael Brockers, Benny Logan, Chad Lavalais, Tyson Jackson, Drake Nevis, Marcus Spears, Booger McFarland or Kyle Williams on this line yet.
Last year's unit couldn't stop the run or push the pocket. If that group isn't better, the defense won't be much better than last year's pretty average defense.
We haven't seen a Glenn Dorsey, Michael Brockers, Benny Logan, Chad Lavalais, Tyson Jackson, Drake Nevis, Marcus Spears, Booger McFarland or Kyle Williams on this line yet.
Last year's unit couldn't stop the run or push the pocket. If that group isn't better, the defense won't be much better than last year's pretty average defense.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:40 am to The Hurricane
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The 2011 defense beat up eventual Pac12 champ/Rose Bowl champ, Big East/Orange Bowl champs and eventual national champs all away from Baton Rouge.
Was coming to remind folks of this.
2011 is the best ever at LSU. Arguably CFB.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 5:11 am to SammyTiger
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The following 2011 players were drafted
I don't think LSU has ever had more talent on the defensive side of the ball, first string, 2nd and so on, than they had in 2011. I was just using '82 as an example that the 2019 defense has a lot of competition to be called the best in LSU history. 2003 had a great defense as well, and probably the best coaches of any other LSU defense. Not as much talent overall, but very smart, big and athletic players. If we go by talent alone, I'd say 2011, if we go with talent plus coaching it'd be 2003. Who knows though, this 2019 defense may end up being mentioned with those as well.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:12 am to Malaysian Tiger
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Aranda probably cannot believe his eyes and he is probably like Uncle Jed when he discovered Oil!!!
Uncle Jed had a puzzled look when his buckshot struck oil. He had very little idea what it meant and absolutely no clue how much wealth he would be coming into.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:17 am to Malaysian Tiger
Can we play at least one game before we declare this team the beat ever.
03,06 and 11 were all time great defenses. This one has a long way to go to reach that level.
03,06 and 11 were all time great defenses. This one has a long way to go to reach that level.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:22 am to memphis tiger
Not even close, we still don't have the dline we are used to, we have to replace a huge hole at MLB and losing one of our top db. Let's see how the younger guys do first
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:23 am to Malaysian Tiger
2011 called....
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:15 am to Malaysian Tiger
Ever? No probably not, One of the better teams weve returned in a while though.
A lot of how "elite" we end up being rides on Chaisson. If he picks up where he lefts off, watch out. With these DBs we have he is going to have a really fun time getting after QBs as they struggle to find people open downfield.
A lot of how "elite" we end up being rides on Chaisson. If he picks up where he lefts off, watch out. With these DBs we have he is going to have a really fun time getting after QBs as they struggle to find people open downfield.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:38 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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2011 LSU is the greatest defense in college football history.
That is a bold statement. Who would be considered in contention with that unit?
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:42 am to Malaysian Tiger
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2019 Defense maybe the best ever?
JFC.......
How many games have been played in 2019 so far to make a statement like this?
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:43 am to Malaysian Tiger
Im prepared for the downvotes. But on paper i believe this team will be 2nd only to 2011 in talent.
The defense is foolish and we have a deep WR and RB core with experience on the OL
And Burrow will be better than last year in a better scheme.
It all depends on the OTs ability to improve on last year.
The defense is foolish and we have a deep WR and RB core with experience on the OL
And Burrow will be better than last year in a better scheme.
It all depends on the OTs ability to improve on last year.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:45 am to im4LSU
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2011 is the best ever at LSU. Arguably CFB.
In all of CFB? Really? Come on bruh. Had 21 hung on them when it mattered the most. Kills your all of CFB argument.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:23 am to YouAre8Up
I hate to admit this ...but the 2011 Alabama defense was better ( the guys we lost to )
Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:33 am to YouAre8Up
Actually the defense played pretty well in that game. The offense did them no favors.....
Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:43 am to YouAre8Up
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Come on bruh. Had 21 hung on them when it mattered the most.
it took Bama until the 4th qtr of the BCS Championship game to actually score a TD. with like 5 minutes left. the first 15 pts were all from FGs. in almost 2 full games and an OT, our defense held a pretty good offense with a Heisman finalist RB out of the end zone.
meanwhile our offense racked up 90 yards total for the game, and fumbled at the 50 to set up Bama's TD.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:47 am to ATLTiger
Agreed.....
Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:51 am to SammyTiger
PS
if we're talking "on roster" talent, the 2010 defense actually had all of the 2011 drafted guys you listed PLUS Pat Pete (1st round), Nevis (3rd), K Shepp (3rd), and Pep (7th).
of course a lot of the 2011 and later standouts were still young and finding their way in 2010 (and Ego was redshirting), but man that was a ton of talent.
if we're talking "on roster" talent, the 2010 defense actually had all of the 2011 drafted guys you listed PLUS Pat Pete (1st round), Nevis (3rd), K Shepp (3rd), and Pep (7th).
of course a lot of the 2011 and later standouts were still young and finding their way in 2010 (and Ego was redshirting), but man that was a ton of talent.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:32 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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2019 Defense maybe the best ever?
LOL... until they top what 2011 did, no.
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2011 LSU is the greatest defense in college football history.
THIS
The play making, game changing ability ALONE of that 2011 defense was unmatched.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:40 pm to TheDeathValley
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That is a bold statement. Who would be considered in contention with that unit?
2011 Alabama
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