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$700 quote from electrician for bathroom work
Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:45 pm
This involves pulling a 20A line for the sauna, installing a dual switch for the light/vent combo going in above tub, putting outlet behind vanity, putting LED mirror on separate circuit from other outlets (so the hair dryer running doesn't make it flicker) and running a couple more lines for lights.
does seem reasonable? walls are all open so the work should be pretty straightforward.
does seem reasonable? walls are all open so the work should be pretty straightforward.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:52 pm to CAD703X
Pulling a new line from breaker box to bathroom? Plus all of the other shite you listed?
Seems ballpark reasonable. Smaller, one-time jobs are hard to get good bids. I found when doing your own renovations, you have to sort of take what you can get from some of the subs you’ll get to respond to you.
Seems ballpark reasonable. Smaller, one-time jobs are hard to get good bids. I found when doing your own renovations, you have to sort of take what you can get from some of the subs you’ll get to respond to you.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:17 pm to CAD703X
Seems high to me
Got an electrician who works for $15 an hour
He’s slow but does good work
Electricians some of them charge way too much
Had one quote me $75 an hour before found my current guy
I’d get another quote and see how it goes, friend
Got an electrician who works for $15 an hour
He’s slow but does good work
Electricians some of them charge way too much
Had one quote me $75 an hour before found my current guy
I’d get another quote and see how it goes, friend
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:34 pm to Phone
$75.00 hr. = State licensed, Insured, Professional
$15.00hr. = Someone trying to make a little money on the side.
Both can be a crap shoot but good luck having any means recourse when the $15 guy puts his foot through your ceiling or worse.
$15.00hr. = Someone trying to make a little money on the side.
Both can be a crap shoot but good luck having any means recourse when the $15 guy puts his foot through your ceiling or worse.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:36 pm to CAD703X
Sounds like he figures he’ll be at your house for a full day or long enough that he won’t be able to get another job in that day.
Maybe a little high but not totally unreasonable.
Maybe a little high but not totally unreasonable.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:43 pm to FrankDrebin
He’s a good guy
Licensed insured and professional
Old guy says he lives comfortably on that when I asked why he doesn’t charge higher
As for saying an electrician should be making $700 a day that’s crazy
That’s a 180,000 a year
Licensed insured and professional
Old guy says he lives comfortably on that when I asked why he doesn’t charge higher
As for saying an electrician should be making $700 a day that’s crazy
That’s a 180,000 a year
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:57 pm to Phone
The job he listed is worth $700.00 if he does it properly. Wages, material, general liability, workers comp, local, state and federal taxes, fuel, truck and truck maintenance, rent , utilities and the list goes on and on.
People don’t understand the cost to run even a small S-Corp business. I wouldn’t bat an eye at paying that as it’s fair. And I’m not getting out of bed for $700.00 either.
Put a pencil to your $180,000.00 a year and see how quick it goes below 6 figures.
People don’t understand the cost to run even a small S-Corp business. I wouldn’t bat an eye at paying that as it’s fair. And I’m not getting out of bed for $700.00 either.
Put a pencil to your $180,000.00 a year and see how quick it goes below 6 figures.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 5:55 am to Martini
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The job he listed is worth $700.00 if he does it properly. Wages, material, general liability, workers comp, local, state and federal taxes, fuel, truck and truck maintenance, rent , utilities and the list goes on and on. People don’t understand the cost to run even a small S-Corp business. I wouldn’t bat an eye at paying that as it’s fair. And I’m not getting out of bed for $700.00 either. Put a pencil to your $180,000.00 a year and see how quick it goes below 6 figures.
Well, someone knows what he's talking about. I would never hire a $15 electrician. Something is just not right there.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:30 am to Phone
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As for saying an electrician should be making $700 a day that’s crazy
That’s a 180,000 a year
Revenue vs. Profit. You don't even need a 101 level class to know that. Your guy has to be jacking you on parts if he's only charging you $15/hr for labor. There is no way he can make a full-time living on $15/hr. Hell, he would be crushed by taxes alone.
CAD, seems fair.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 6:31 am
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:41 am to CAD703X
That seems high to me. $100/ hour base rate that’s 7 hours work. Unless there’s something I’m missing that’s not 7 hours of work more like 4-5.
It’s harder to get a quote for a 2 hour job. A $500 job can be a full days work.
If you think it would take 7-8 hours then sure it’s very fair.
It’s harder to get a quote for a 2 hour job. A $500 job can be a full days work.
If you think it would take 7-8 hours then sure it’s very fair.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:04 am to Martini
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Put a pencil to your $180,000.00 a year and see how quick it goes below 6 figures.
This x 1000. People in my neighborhood throw a hissy fit on the cost we pay our landscaping company for the common grounds. "It's just 6 guys making no more than $10/hr, how does it cost that much?"
The public has zero concept of equipment/maintenance costs, insurance policies, payroll taxes, fica, medicare, etc. It makes me want to cry.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:11 am to LSU0358
To jump on the derail, if you are a tradesman that $180,000 is not far off if you hustle hard. I know multiple plumbers that work 50-60 hour weeks often. Now they also take a lot of time off during fishing and hunting season don’t get me wrong.
But they’ll work 6 days a week billing out $600-1000/ day at $80-100/ hour. That can absolutely lead to a good living. I have a plumber friend that told me recently he worked 23 days in a row. Given he was recently divorced and that was likely some BS, but the work is there right now.
While Martini was mostly right, it’s not THAT much in employment expenses. Probably $25,000/ year for insurance, vehicle costs, taxes, etc. There’s plenty of tradesman pulling in $120-150k if they like to work hard. A good rule of thumb is 30% of billable is salary for the first 40 hours. OT is where the money is made.
But they’ll work 6 days a week billing out $600-1000/ day at $80-100/ hour. That can absolutely lead to a good living. I have a plumber friend that told me recently he worked 23 days in a row. Given he was recently divorced and that was likely some BS, but the work is there right now.
While Martini was mostly right, it’s not THAT much in employment expenses. Probably $25,000/ year for insurance, vehicle costs, taxes, etc. There’s plenty of tradesman pulling in $120-150k if they like to work hard. A good rule of thumb is 30% of billable is salary for the first 40 hours. OT is where the money is made.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 7:14 am
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:04 am to CAD703X
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does seem reasonable? walls are all open so the work should be pretty straightforward.
Depends on a few factors, one being what is he supplying?
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:10 am to baldona
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While Martini was mostly right, it’s not THAT much in employment expenses. Probably $25,000/ year for insurance, vehicle costs, taxes, etc. There’s plenty of tradesman pulling in $120-150k if they like to work hard. A good rule of thumb is 30% of billable is salary for the first 40 hours. OT is where the money is made.
You don’t have a clue what expenses may be because they are different for everyone. Insurance for electrical work is about the same as roofing about 46% on labor dollars depending on carrier, payroll and record. Astronomical and it is based on revenues and payroll as well. That is just one item. I paid $27,000.00 last year in drug testing alone.
Commercial vehicle insurance is 50% more than individual and in Louisiana it is double what would be in Texas. EBR taxes alone will hit hard before state and Federal. Trump gave me a tax break and Baton Rouge and Louisiana took it back.
One set of “cheap” tires on one truck is $1000.00 and fuel while cheap is still over $2.00 gallon.
And guess what? Me the single, sole proprietor of an electrical/plumbing/AC/appliance repair or any number of small businesses isn’t getting paid overtime to unstop your toilet/ replace an ac coil on a Sunday afternoon normally for some ungrateful homeowner who will bitch while writing the check in the coolness of an otherwise hot arse house.
So I price accordingly so after all of that I can actually make a living wage and if anyone complains about my house, or new truck or I have a boat they can leave their corporate job, stick their neck out and take the risk of becoming a small business owner of which there is about a 90% failure rate.
I take all the risk. I reap all the reward. The $15.00 an hour electrician is foolish and the owner using him even more. Explain that to your insurance company when your house is in ashes.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:31 am to Martini
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You don’t have a clue what expenses may be because they are different for everyone
So you know what I know? I run a small business myself and have insurance, vehicles, etc.
I never said they were cheap. I said anyone billing $700/ day for 48 weeks a year can make a good living.
Overhead is expensive, but its usually between what non business owners think it is and small business owners claim it is.
ETA: None of this helps the OP.
OP, if your walls are truly open and all the lines are easy to run that's high but not completely unfair. But without seeing the job no one can give you a good idea.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 8:33 am
Posted on 4/11/19 at 12:59 pm to Phone
My electrician charges $90/hour but that's $90/hour so that someone else gets electrocuted instead of me.
Win.
Win.
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