re: Orgeron vs Herman

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But this team has something special about it with Burrow... IMO...........

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Burrow is the man.

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Herman is one of the better coaches in the land, hes got Texas on the upswing quickly.

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Not sold on Herman yet, Texas lost 3 games (1 to maryland) and won a bunch of big 12 games by a touchdown or less. The W-L numbers look good but they also lose a bunch of starters this year. Herman did recruit well last year. If they stay top 10 this year I think he will do ok at Texas. I am looking forward to playing them next year, we will score points and I don't think they will be able to keep up--turnovers will be huge.

That was more about the attitude and overall demorilization of the program, not talent. The same could be said for LSU the year Orgeron took over. We were headed down hill fast and he brought life back into the program and that is now progressing.

Texas simply let it dip and LSU didn't. Simple as that. This program needed an overhaul and Orgeron cleaned house. He cut the fat and got rid of all the players who weren't motivated. That's why we saw the OL attrition. O just doesn't get the same respect from a sector of our idiotic fan base. Like you.

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O just doesn't get the same respect from a sector of our idiotic fan base. Like you.

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My personal take which is considered very hot by a portion of the fanbase is that Orgeron has learned from his mistakes at Ole Miss, but has simultaneously had a learning curve with taking on a program with the stature of LSU. Thus, the program took a bit of a dip while he transitioned into it. Once he got his bearings and things got rolling though, we got back to where we were at, and we now have a coach who is motivated to succeed where as Les was more worried about fighting Alleva to do things his way. In my opinion we could have gotten to this point more efficiently, but thank our lucky stars we got to this point at all. O's a good coach somehow and will be with us for a little bit, so we better buckle up and hope he succeeds

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This program needed an overhaul and Orgeron cleaned house. He cut the fat and got rid of all the players who weren't motivated. That's why we saw the OL attrition. O just doesn't get the same respect from a sector of our idiotic fan base. Like you

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You have to wonder why those guys were processed. Were they players that the coaching staff whiffed on so bad that they just weren't considered D1 level which I don't believe or did they just have a bad attitude. Either way LSU had one senior and one junior. 3 younger guys that probably weren't ready to be put into the fire. lack of upperclassmen had to be a huge factor in offensive line performance this past season.

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id take him in a heart beat. To take texas from where they where to beating Georgia in the sugar is impressive also while beating Oklahoma.

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and then OK beat TX by 12 pts a few weeks later
GA just did not want to be there.

on his famous year when Houston beat Louisville ... his team ended w either 3 or 4 losses that year.

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TrevRollings29

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Just because we didn't land him doesn't mean he can't coach.

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Herman is a very good coach and has a totally different approach to the game offensively for sure. Herman is closer to Mullen in his approach, with a lead they start to press harder and harder, neither of them are content with running a conservative offense. When these coaches get into the red zone you have no idea what play they will run out of any formation.

If I have a negative comment towards the LSU staff it would be the RED ZONE offense or lack of offense. Coach O and coach E seem to content with protecting the opportunity of a field goal may be more important than scoring a touchdown.

If LSU is going to win championship coach O has to change the whole culture of the LSU offense and through my years of experience one thing always comes to mind, {people never really change}.

Quiet people are always quiet
Loud people are always loud
Gamblers always are gamblers
Cheaters always cheat
Conservative people are always conservative
Controling people always want to control

When the camera focuses on coach O when LSU is in the red zone he looks nervous instead of excited and I believe this spreads to the staff and the team.

Just my opinion

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Herman is a massive douche

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He seems a little odd, but why is he a massive douche?

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there may not be a game all of next season (including Alabama) in which O is more personally motivated to win.

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What difference does this make? Do you think Orgeron motors along giving 80% effort until he faces a Jimbo or Herman? If he's trying harder those weeks he isn't trying hard enough the rest of the time.

Plus, doesn't your theory take on water when you remember that Orgeron lost (with a talent advantage) to the other coach who was wanted before him?

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To take texas from where they where to beating Georgia in the sugar is impressive also while beating Oklahoma.

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A lot of people make a big deal out of this. But UGA wasn’t motivated to play that game. In a regular season game or a playoff game I think UGA wins easily.

Little fun fact the loser of the SEC Championship game is 4-6 in their bowl game over the past 10 years. Mizzu has 2 of those wins.