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re: I've never taken a guilty plea from someone who isn't guilty...
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:59 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 12/18/18 at 1:59 pm to BBONDS25
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The entire hearing baffles me. It is very strange for a judge to say the things he did today. From accusing the defendant of treason all the way to pleading with the defendant to change his plea. Knowing the defendant has received a recommendation of zero jail time.
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:00 pm to NC_Tigah
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it is the law my friend
Link? If you’re going to go to Miranda, make sure you look at whether it applies to voluntary interviews in the WH and if that constitutes custody.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:00 pm to 90proofprofessional
WTF happened to your post with the links?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:02 pm to bhtigerfan
It is a crime when it’s to the fbi. Which is why Flynn was prosecuted.
But it’s very likely he gets no time because of cooperation
What you clowns are really crying about is that he cooperated. You think but for him being prosecuted he wouldn’t have flipped.
But it’s very likely he gets no time because of cooperation
What you clowns are really crying about is that he cooperated. You think but for him being prosecuted he wouldn’t have flipped.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:02 pm to NC_Tigah
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The entire hearing baffles me. It is very strange for a judge to say the things he did today. From accusing the defendant of treason all the way to pleading with the defendant to change his plea. Knowing the defendant has received a recommendation of zero jail time.
Does that give a regulatory body grounds for a misconduct investigation or give decent grounds for an appellate hearing?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:02 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Admins covering for CptBengal
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:04 pm to boosiebadazz
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Admins covering for CptBengal
why? I have nothing to hide, nor will I be shamed by you or any other TDS afflicted cuck.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:07 pm to boosiebadazz
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Admins covering for CptBengal
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:12 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Voluntary seems to be a superfluous adjective in this context. What would constitute an involuntary interview . . . ah . . . that would be one in which Flynn was wiretapped, eh?
make sure you look at whether it applies to voluntary interviews in the WH and if that constitutes custody.
But I'd like to hear how the WH locale distinguishes a target's Constitutional rights. What tested case law do you have in mind?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:14 pm to JuiceTerry
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This is ridiculous
Agreed, the rights of Miranda attach in a custodial interrogation, it's completely obvious interrogating questions were asked to elicit an incriminating answer, what's murky though is that the setting as portrayed by both sides doesn't appear custodial even though the FBI's side of the story is irrelevant per applicable caselaw. Maybe I need to read up more on Flynn's side of how he felt, all accounts it appeared voluntary and all that on his part.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:15 pm to NC_Tigah
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What tested case law do you have in mind?
mountains of jurisprudence on when Miranda applies 
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:15 pm to boosiebadazz
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You notice we’re getting some posts deleted in this thread?
yeah. last time i checked bengal's denial about having made the predictions about flynn's allocution were still up, though
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:16 pm to tiger4life69
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It is a crime when it’s to the fbi.
Why then are FBI interviews not recorded? Why then are 302's, written by FBI agents themselves, the only contemporaneous recording of what happened? If a podunk cop has to record an interview with a podunk crook in a podunk town, why is it that the most powerful law enforcement agency on Earth is exempt from the same standards?
People are pissed at how easy it is for someone to be charged with a federal process crime, have your entire history combed through and then be railroaded to plead guilty to a crime you didn't commit under the threat of decades of imprisonment for other alleged crimes that would've never come to light but for the bullshite process crime.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:16 pm to CptBengal
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ith a thonspiracee!
juicewant, boosie coffee, and 90tard are something else today Also Zero Hank is amazing
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:16 pm to JuiceTerry
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He was not warned. He'd have been acquitted on that basis. alone
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This is ridiculous
Yeah well, like it or not, we still have this little thing called constitutional rights in this country.
You should be grateful. They even protect people like you.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:18 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:I'm aware of those.
mountains of jurisprudence on when Miranda applies
What we are discussing is when advice of rights, or consequence does not apply.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:18 pm to boosiebadazz
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Link? If you’re going to go to Miranda, make sure you look at whether it applies to voluntary interviews in the WH and if that constitutes custody.
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boosiebadazz
In my opinion, you're more than likely correct on this, yes its completely obvious interrogating questions were asked with the whole meeting thing but whether its custodial per the crim pro caselaw, circumstances don't indicate that to me and Flynn's side of the setting and context of the interview's the only thing that matters.
FWIW: I don't think Flynn should've lied however I don't think it was material for false statements when they already had the substantive proof, yes I'm aware of the capacity standard but what did this lie have the capacity to do in light of all the circumstances? Not really much, life still goes on and the investigation still proceeds as planned. IDK maybe its the civil libertarian in me coming out.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:21 pm to NC_Tigah
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mountains of jurisprudence on when Miranda applies
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I'm aware of those.
really? your prior statements on this thread sure as hell don't seem to reflect much knowledge about that
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:21 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:That might be basis for Sullivan's interrogation today.
and Flynn's side of the setting and context of the interview's the only thing that matters.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:23 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:All I did was quote his post and even that got deleted
You notice we’re getting some posts deleted in this thread? I wonder why the powers that be are hiding the truth about allocution
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