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re: Estate Tax Insurance

Posted on 10/17/18 at 8:32 am to
Posted by Curdoglsu
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/17/18 at 8:32 am to
Part of it may have been to get cash demanded by the spouse. LINK
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48663 posts
Posted on 10/17/18 at 9:06 am to
Interesting. So she had a qtip that she basically disclaimed two years later? Too bad they didn’t have a closing letter before that...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/17/18 at 9:27 am to
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Interesting. So she had a qtip that she basically disclaimed two years later? Too bad they didn’t have a closing letter before that...


She only lived two years later. They were probably still negotiating the first estate when she died, much less a closing letter.

Had to be other family issues going on there. Wife didn't like the kids, maybe, and wanted to blow it up? Cause that is what she did... all for 2 years of income.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20401 posts
Posted on 10/17/18 at 10:04 am to
Hell no.
Posted by SECMAN16
Member since Nov 2010
125 posts
Posted on 10/17/18 at 10:06 am to
its a scam. they need to go to an attorney who specializes in estate planning.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20401 posts
Posted on 10/17/18 at 10:23 am to
No need to worry about estate taxes unless you and your spouse have over $22.2 M in assets now or over $13 M in 2026.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/17/18 at 10:27 am to
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MSTiger33


Wat?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/17/18 at 10:40 am to
Also lol at $1333/ month for $200k in life insurance. How old are they? Paying $20-30k a year for a mil in life insurance in your upper years is pretty normal. But $10,000-15,000/ year for $200k is laughable.

What are the chances the OPs in laws are worth exactly $11,700,000 and have never planned any estate taxes?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37157 posts
Posted on 10/17/18 at 11:27 am to
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Also lol at $1333/ month for $200k in life insurance. How old are they? Paying $20-30k a year for a mil in life insurance in your upper years is pretty normal. But $10,000-15,000/ year for $200k is laughable.


Somebody's gotta pay for that commission
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
3654 posts
Posted on 10/17/18 at 12:18 pm to
It's a whole life life insurance.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 10/17/18 at 12:35 pm to
I bet the commission on that is awesome... for the planner.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20401 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:22 am to
Estate tax exemption under the TCJA is $11.18 million per person indexed annually for inflation. This setup is going to sunset at the end of 2025. In 2026, we go back to ATRA levels with the understanding that the $5 million exemption amount has been indexing annually since 2011. Our best guess is that indexed amount will be between $6-7 million in 2026. Portability was enacted under the ATRA and remains in place under the TCJA.

All that being said, a married couple doesn’t have to worry about fed estate tax if they are under $22.2 million today through 2025. In 2026 and beyond, there is a potential estate tax if the couple is over $13 million due to the sunset. The caveat is that a new administration can always change it.

FWIW, I was an EP attorney in private practice for HNW clients before going in house to plan for UHNW clients.
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