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re: Tucker Carlson stokes the flames of class war
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:27 am to Razorback Reverend
Posted on 8/31/18 at 8:27 am to Razorback Reverend
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If Amazon, Walmart, And many other major corporations/companies would pay a living wage with benefits these folks wouldn't be sucking off the government tit that the rest of us pay for.
You don't understand economics very well.
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Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:15 am to CommoDawg
Amazon is heavily subsidized by the state, folks.
They don’t pay even close to their fair share for shipping via the USPS
They also just recently eclipsed Walmart in subsidies received by various governments. $1.115 Billion.
That’s our money. We have a right to dictate terms to them if they accept OUR money. Otherwise, get off our tit, and do things ALL on your own.
Same goes for Walmart, etc.
They don’t pay even close to their fair share for shipping via the USPS
They also just recently eclipsed Walmart in subsidies received by various governments. $1.115 Billion.
That’s our money. We have a right to dictate terms to them if they accept OUR money. Otherwise, get off our tit, and do things ALL on your own.
Same goes for Walmart, etc.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:27 am to Razorback Reverend
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If Amazon, Walmart, And many other major corporations/companies would pay a living wage with benefits these folks wouldn't be sucking off the government tit that the rest of us pay for.
They should compensate people for their value to their companies, not to make sure they earn what you think is enough money.
at Tucker Carlson and other "conservatives" melting about Amazon wages.Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:28 am to LoneStarRanger
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subsidies
You should really look this word up.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:41 am to Boatshoes
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One where you don't have to tap into the welfare system.
So, just to be clear, in the US an income equal to median income in Italy allows the recipient to tap into welfare. Middle-class EU income is your conceptual threshold for a "living wage"?
In fact, $22K/yr puts one in the top 3% of earners worldwide. By your standard >97% wage-earners are not making a living wage. I guess that begs the question what "living" means.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 9:42 am
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:49 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You should really look this word up.
Ouch, looks like you should.
Amazon receives subsidies
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But smaller, existing tax incentives have already made Amazon the leading recipient of so-called “economic development” subsidies in the country. According to Good Jobs First, a non-profit that tracks state tax breaks, since 2000 Amazon has received $1.115 billion in 129 communities in the U.S., rocketing past the previous leader in this category: Walmart.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:52 am to LoneStarRanger
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Amazon receives subsidies
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The New Republic
No wonder you don't know what it means.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:55 am to CommoDawg
Once you get out of school and start making your own money, your commie stances will change. Unless you remain a poor. Then they won’t.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:58 am to CommoDawg
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CommoDawg
All communist deserve to die.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 10:02 am to CommoDawg
Whether the employees are on welfare or no, we shouldn’t be allowing globohomo megacorps like amazon to not pay federal taxes and giving them windfalls. That type of “small government” is for neocons and cuckservatives.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 10:11 am to CommoDawg
I do think there is a point to be made about Amazon raping the US postal service (taxpayers) to deliver their packages....
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:08 am to LoneStarRanger
quote:What do you think they should pay? Do you they should be charged more than other shippers for the same service? Why?
They don’t pay even close to their fair share for shipping via the USPS
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:12 am to 10MTNTiger
quote:When did Amazon stop paying for deliveries? Oh... and...
I do think there is a point to be made about Amazon raping the US postal service (taxpayers) to deliver their packages....
TOP TWELVE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE
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Zero tax dollars used. The Postal Service receives NO tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:15 am to OSqueal
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So what constitutes a living wage?
Anything above the amount of income it takes to be ineligible for welfare from government.
Instead, the pay them just below that mark intentionally, so the welfare keeps coming. Therefore amazon gets workers and workers keep government income
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:20 am to Robin Masters
quote:if you can't afford it you try to steal it
Would you go into Walmart and find something you want to buy then demand they sell it for less simply because you can not afford it?
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:26 am to GeeOH
quote:The local warehouses in Columbus, which has pretty low cost of living, start out at about $15 per hour. This is the so called "living wage" the Berniebots have been arguing for.
Anything above the amount of income it takes to be ineligible for welfare from government.
Instead, the pay them just below that mark intentionally, so the welfare keeps coming. Therefore amazon gets workers and workers keep government income
They also have good benefits, which includes Restricted Stock Units if one can manage to work for two years to get vested. That $2000 right now for one unit alone and they can earn a couple per year apparently, so that's a couple more dollars per hour.
Here are some of the benefits a basic warehouse worker gets:
Amazon VP says warehouse workers get the exact same benefits as he does
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Full-time employees at our fulfillment centers offer highly-competitive pay, health insurance, disability insurance, retirement savings plans and company stock. The company also offers up to 20 weeks of paid leave and innovative benefits such as Leave Share and Ramp Back,
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"Both full-time and part-time hourly employees are eligible for Amazon's innovative Career Choice program that pre-pays 95 percent of tuition for courses related to in-demand fields, regardless of whether the skills are relevant to a future career at Amazon.
quote:$15 hour, great benefits, stock units, etc for WAREHOUSE work. And the even get paid a couple thousand dollars if they choose to quit.
Part-time employees who work more than 20 hours per week receive benefits, including life and disability insurance, dental and vision insurance with premiums paid in full by Amazon, and funding towards medical insurance.
What else do people expect for that type of work, unless you're an economic illiterate Berniebot?
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:30 am to Taxing Authority
You’re not very well informed, are you? Amazon takes advantage of a special deal called a “workshare discount” via the Postal Regulatory Commission. Amazon used an army of lobbyists to get themselves a sweetheart deal that NOBODY else has.
Trump has said we should renegotiate that. Which has been done plenty before.
Trump has said we should renegotiate that. Which has been done plenty before.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:31 am to 10MTNTiger
quote:
I do think there is a point to be made about Amazon raping the US postal service (taxpayers) to deliver their packages....
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:32 am to GeeOH
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Anything above the amount of income it takes to be ineligible for welfare from government.
Instead, the pay them just below that mark intentionally, so the welfare keeps coming. Therefore amazon gets workers and workers keep government income
And you contend this is a private business problem and not a government problem?
Posted on 8/31/18 at 11:36 am to LoneStarRanger
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Amazon takes advantage of a special deal called a “workshare discount” via the Postal Regulatory Commission. Amazon used an army of lobbyists to get themselves answer heart deal that NOBODY else has.
I wonder why the leading E-commerce company, with almost 50% of the market share, growing at an exponential rate with hundreds of billions in sales annually gets a sweetheart deal?
quote:Then go for it. Nothing wrong with that, but the USPS makes money from their Amazon deal, so they better not get too greedy because Amazon has a lot of leverage, as they should.
Trump has said we should renegotiate that. Which has been done plenty before.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 11:38 am
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