re: Why do y’all hate McCain so much?

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You may venerate John McCain, if you wish. You may praise him as one of the USA's greatest military figures, if you wish. You may laud his long service as a US Senator, if you wish. But don't expect me to join you.

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Excellent post. I've never said McCain was an outstanding solider. But he went and sacrificed and suffered at a time when many skirted their obligation at every turn. Folks forget weren't around or simply dont comprehend the political climate of that time. This is/was was one of my main objections to Clinton when he ran (and Bush II and Trump.)

Much of my opinion on the matter was shaped by watching my favorite Uncle, who was a combat marine in Vietnam, continue to suffer and be haunted by his time there. He contracted malaria, and it almost killed him while he was in country and he still suffers from relapses. And this is not to mention the treatment he got by those in his own country when he returned.

Distinguished service or not, at least he went.

Because they’re window licking trumpanzes with no principles that do whatever Cheeto Supreme says

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at least he went.

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Yes, but, what choice did he have? He completed flight school in 1960. He was a naval officer and academy grad at that time. He could hardly desert the Navy and head to Canada when Vietnam started. Sure, he went to Vietnam and he served. But, let's not compare him to the 18 year old conscript taken from his parents and shipped off to a jungle battlefield assaulting NVA fortified bunkers.

McCain flew his missions. His plane was hit. He bungled the ejection procedure and this caused his arms to be broken. His life took a hard and tragic turn then until he returned to the USA. But his own lack of skill with regard to properly executing the ejection procedure directly caused his broken arms.

Its nothing personal I don’t like any Democrats.

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John McCain would not have let "bone spurs" keep him from serving his country....

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And they sure didn't prevent him from skipping a Sidewinder down the deck of the Forrestal.

He spent his whole life trying to get American kids killed in foreign lands a 1000 miles from home.

He dumped his first wife crippled from disease for a younger more richer broad.

I think for the most part you can respect McCain as you do other service members. However, there are comments about him being an admirals son, akin to being a lawyer in your daddy's law firm and I got the impression he was a bit of a brat. Then reading about the fire on the carrier and how his immaturity played a key role was disheartening to say the least, where the victims were enlisted, drafted servicemen.
All that I ever heard about him in Hanoi was positive as I can't fault any of those men in the Hilton that was pure hell.

Fast forward to his political career in the past few years and its impossible not to call him a RINO and an obstructionist.

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He dared to disagree with their orange overlord.

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You a fan of warmongers, baw?

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You a fan of warmongers, baw?

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This question ain't aimed at me.

I've never liked McCain. But repubs had no problem with McCain's warmongering before he took up a stance against Trump.

They hate him because he is not cum-drunk from the 24/7 DJT fellate fest like they are. And the irony is he has more class and courage in any one cancer cell than DJT and/or his cum-drunk minions.

Those involved in the 24/7 hate-fest of DJT and those involved in the 24/7 fellate- fest are the same individuals .... too lazy or dumb or weak to make their own rational decisions. JM is in neither of those 2 groups, but in the group that can look at each individual issue and make a non-emotive decision or non-groupthink decision based on a personal or political value system. Group-thought sycophants detest free thinkers when they don’t fall in line with the boss.