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re: Family of Max Gruver files lawsuit seeking $25 million in damages against LSU, fraternity
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:02 pm to jmarto1
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:02 pm to jmarto1
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When I was an undergrad in the early 00's half of all donations to LSU came from Greeks.
1) Run the counterfactual -- Would LSU still get those donations with a smaller percentage of Greeks? Evidence from other universities indicates "yes." Hell -- if there was a positive correlation between % of Greeks and donations, SEC schools should be the richest schools in the world. They aren't. Other schools get a lot more in donations.
2) I mean no offense by this, but I am highly skeptical that you had any idea where donations came from when you were an undergraduate at LSU. Not too many undergraduates have inside info from the LSUAA or the Provost's office. Again, no offense, but I call bullshite.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 6:02 pm
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:05 pm to HenryParsons
Why didn't they get Gordon, and get it done?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:09 pm to TxTiger82
Damages sought in the original petitions are always high. Not sure why people are surprised
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:09 pm to HenryParsons
25 million in damages? Really?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:15 pm to The Pirate King
3-5MM
I'm fine with it, but 25?
frick you, hope you get nothing
I'm fine with it, but 25?
frick you, hope you get nothing
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:22 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
quote:
3-5MM I'm fine with it, but 25? frick you, hope you get nothing
His family is from Georgia and doesn’t give a shite, but really, you’re gonna try and frick over LSU, and by extension the state of LA because some frat douches goaded your son into doing this? Was no part of the talk with his parents before going off to college and joining a frat about being responsible when drinking?
Realistically, I see them getting 1-3 mill tops.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:25 pm to The Pirate King
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As part of the “Partnership Process” between LSU and Greek letter organizations,
when LSU is notified of an incident involving a fraternity or sorority, or fraternity or sorority
member(s), the allegations are subject to a “chapter internal investigation” conducted of and by
the very fraternity or sorority chapter and fraternity or sorority members alleged to have
committed the misconduct.
108. Apart from Greek letter organizations, LSU does not empower or permit other
students or recognized student organizations to investigate themselves following allegations of
dangerous and illegal misconduct or violations of LSU rules, policies, or codes of conduct.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:26 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
quote:
3-5MM
I'm fine with it, but 25?
frick you, hope you get nothing
You know how you get $3-5MM?
You ask for $25MM.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:27 pm to HenryParsons
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:31 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
told fraternity to frick off when asked to do stupid shite
Exactly! Be a man! Stand up for yourself. This kid was a beta bitch follower.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:37 pm to TheCaterpillar
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A huge percentage of donors went through the Greek system and upper-middle class kids, especially out of state ones, often choose colleges based on Greek system. You want as many out of state upper-middle class kids with full out-of-state tuition paying parents as you can get.
Are they going to put up the $25 million?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:45 pm to TxTiger82
Not all schools are the same. Baton Rouge isn’t attracting people Austin will and it’s not nearly as good of a school or in nearly as good of an educational system in its state.
Terrible comparison.
ETA:
And % Greeks who donate is far fricking higher at LSU.
Terrible comparison.
ETA:
And % Greeks who donate is far fricking higher at LSU.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:48 pm to JDogg33
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Exactly! Be a man! Stand up for yourself. This kid was a beta bitch follower.
Their bigger problem is that the left him passed out for like 12 hours in the house.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:54 pm to HenryParsons
LSU needs to write a check and avoid trial on this one.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:57 pm to TheCaterpillar
Will somebody post a motha frickin link re: Greeks contribution. Wanna know who to laugh at when they're proven wrong
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:18 pm to anc
quote:
LSU needs to write a check and avoid trial on this one.
Hopefully they fire a shite ton of administrators to pay for this settlement. There are so many that need to go.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:24 pm to TxTiger82
quote:
Run the counterfactual -- Would LSU still get those donations with a smaller percentage of Greeks? Evidence from other universities indicates "yes." Hell -- if there was a positive correlation between % of Greeks and donations, SEC schools should be the richest schools in the world. They aren't. Other schools get a lot more in donations.
2) I mean no offense by this, but I am highly skeptical that you had any idea where donations came from when you were an undergraduate at LSU. Not too many undergraduates have inside info from the LSUAA or the Provost's office. Again, no offense, but I call bullshite.
The info was provided by LSU through Greek Affairs. Was I able to verify it? No, but Greeks tend to stay involved with their alma maters through their chapters.
You really can't compare the south to up north. The amount of alumni is night and day
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In the years preceding Max’s death, LSU received so many credible complaints of hazing and dangerous compelled consumption of alcohol against Phi Delt’s LSU chapter that, in 2016, the Director of LSU’s Office of Greek Life “begged for assistance” from Phi Delt’s national headquarters in addressing the misconduct.
Angela Guillory knew about it and did nothing. She is on the hot seat and looking for sacrificial lambs to save her arse
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:30 pm to HenryParsons
Could you imagine if Phi Delt is what finally killed Greek Life?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:57 pm to JDogg33
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I didn't realize the taxpayers made him drink shots.
frick his parents.
so edgy brah. If that was your son we all know you would just go on with your life. Probably get a dog?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:59 pm to LSUminati
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"The Gruver family alleges in their lawsuit that LSU’s and Phi Delta Theta’s failure to end the tradition of hazing at the chapter was driven by a broken model of self-governance and outdated gender stereotypes about young men engaging in masculine rites of passage — in direct violation of Title IX’s prohibition of sex discrimination."
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