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Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:29 pm to UpToPar
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We're on the same page
I would hope to god our HC is "on the same page" with his coordinators. How does this go against what I said?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:31 pm to Gray Tiger
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Nick Saban is famous for leaving his alone staff to do their thing while he just stands by and watches. Amirite?
Yes, yes you are right.
Saban hired Lane Kiffin, lane fuching kiffin, because Saban knew that kiffin can do offense and Saban is a defensive guy.
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We need more of your in depth football commentary.
I look forward to the position battles of fall camp.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:33 pm to Topwater Trout
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the fact that CLM is here is why we will see more passing and less running
Are you sure it has nothing to do with the lack of experience returning at RB, and the tremendous depth and talent at both WR and QB?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:37 pm to MLCLyons
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I would hope to god our HC is "on the same page" with his coordinators. How does this go against what I said?
Read between the lines, man. It's there, you just don't want to understand it.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:43 pm to Dave England
i am pretty sure we will try to be a much more balanced offense and harder to defend for opponents.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:44 pm to memphis tiger
This is one of the best comments i've seen on here in a LONG time
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:48 pm to MLCLyons
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Since you're laughing at my assertion there's no evidence, please provide me with some that shows I'm wrong.
Oh I don't know, just look at the fact that Orgeron has tried to force an offense on every OC he's ever had.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:53 pm to Goldrush25
quote:yea but it will change this year
just look at the fact that Orgeron has tried to force an offense on every OC he's ever had
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:56 pm to Dave England
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Dave England
shut the frick up asswipe
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:06 pm to Gray Tiger
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Nick Saban is famous for leaving his alone staff to do their thing while he just stands by and watches
Because O is so comparable to Nick Saban as a HC.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:34 pm to Topwater Trout
Yeah, we get it. 50:50 run pass etc.
You know who else said that ?
Ed Orgeron, in 2017 (bet you thought I was gonna say Les)
You know who else said that ?
Ed Orgeron, in 2017 (bet you thought I was gonna say Les)
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:00 pm to Dave England
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For hiring his buddy Cammy Cam. So why is O telling us he’s known Steve Ensminger since 1979 like we should care? Does the fact that they’ve been friends for nearly 40 years mean he is gonna use the tight ends more and no longer run the toss dive??
In his defense, with a limited in talent QB, the offense was far more productive with him as OC. With Cam our O struggled against good teams and mediocre teams.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:14 pm to Dave England
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Miles was ripped to shreds
for hiring his buddy Cammy Cam and putting their friendship ahead of the team's offensive production.
FIFY
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:16 pm to Dave England
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Miles was ripped to shreds
For hiring his buddy Cammy Cam.
How does this have a single upvote?
It's unequivocally false. This fanbase blew more smoke up Cam's arse than just about any OC we've had. Cam didn't catch heat for a while.
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So why is O telling us he’s known Steve Ensminger since 1979 like we should care?
And O is catching major heat for hiring SE. It was the most asked about question he got at SEC media days. What exactly is your point?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:35 pm to skullhawk
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And O is catching major heat for hiring SE. It was the most asked about question he got at SEC media days. What exactly is your point?
now THIS is unequivocally false. Orgeron is catching shite from a handful of posters on tigerdroppings, i would still say most of this board is on board with the hirez
most of the rest of the country does not give a shite because they already think so little of O to begin with.
My point is why are more people not frustrated with the fact that Ensminger seems to have gotten the job not based on his qualifications, but on the rapport he has with O.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:37 pm to Dave England
Initially people loved the hire and the first year went pretty damn well. It turned out to be a poor hire the following year once people realized that Cameron can't coach young/undeveloped QBs to save his life.
This is likely also going to be the results that come out when people realize Ensminger can't coach them either.
This is likely also going to be the results that come out when people realize Ensminger can't coach them either.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 4:59 pm to MLCLyons
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Miles wasn't ripped for hiring Cam, most people were very positive of the hire. We just didn't know Cam was going to do whatever Miles wanted to do. There's no evidence that Ensminger is going to do that.
This is the scenario that played out but the majority of the fans just believe that Cam Cameron was a terrible OC.
Cameron didn't have what it takes to be a good head coach but as an OC/QB coach he did. All the success in Cameron's long coaching career came as an OC and QB's coach at the collegiate and NFL levels. He's responsible for coaching many successful QB's who had great NFL careers. His resume in regards to grooming QB's and calling plays is superior to the resume of Ensminger.
I'm not knighting Cameron as the best OC in football but he certainly was a good coordinator. His first year at LSU in 2013 had LSU's offense in the Top 35 nationally in Passing, Rushing & Points per game plus Total Offense. He gets credit for Mettenberger's successful season as a senior as well.
Les completely shifted the offense once Mett, Jarvis and OBJ left the program and Cameron's vertical passing attack went with them. In 2014 Les greatly influenced the offense and Cameron's LSU offense was essentially dead at that point.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:15 pm to LSUStar
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Orgeron, it is claimed, knows even less about offense than Miles.
Who made that assertion.
Do you need to be an expert on football to be a talking head.
How many failed coaches are analyzing football games and second guessing successful Head Coaches.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:17 pm to memphis tiger
In hindsight, don't you think the fact that Cam Cameron was fired by the Ravens DURING the middle of the season when they won the Super Bowl should have sent off alarms?
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