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Are student loans (for undergrads) trashy?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:31 pm
Back in the day, most middle class kids had parents pay for college with college savings, or at least had a plan with the kid to combine the amount of savings and job kid got in college to pay for college.
I understand loans for grad school and professional school, but racking up significant amount of student loan debt as an undergrad seems like a significant lack of foresight and judgement from both parents and students, and is therefore trashy.
I understand loans for grad school and professional school, but racking up significant amount of student loan debt as an undergrad seems like a significant lack of foresight and judgement from both parents and students, and is therefore trashy.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:31 pm to Ric Flair
It’s not trashy, it’s just potentially very stupid
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:33 pm to Ric Flair
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Are student loans (for undergrads) trashy?
Spoken just like a guy that has "nice jeans" and no college degree.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:33 pm to Ric Flair
I would imagine that economic events in this century likely wiped out a lot of student loan savings accounts for middle class families.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:35 pm to Ric Flair
Well considering the cost of school has risen much faster than income, I understand parents not being able to afford to send their children to college.
You use to get 4 years for 10-12k not you are looking at 25-30k
You use to get 4 years for 10-12k not you are looking at 25-30k
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:36 pm to Ric Flair
I’m planning to fund my kids college by saving money when they’re young. My parents did the same for me.
I wouldn’t call it trashy but poor planning on the parents part
I wouldn’t call it trashy but poor planning on the parents part
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:37 pm to Ric Flair
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Ric Flair
Wrestling is trashy.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:38 pm to Ric Flair
Pretty much all posts with the word trashy in the subject are trashy.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:38 pm to Ric Flair
It's all a house of cards. Much like other leveraged facets of our so-called economy, it will come crashing down. We're a bought on credit broke arse smoke and mirrors nation if there ever was one.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:42 pm to Ric Flair
I was fortunate enough to have parents that paid for mine. Granted LSU was like $1200 per semester when I went. My dad had 3 of us in college at the same time.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:43 pm to Ric Flair
It’s trashy for bs degrees. But for some it’s the only way they can pay for school. Loans for a good degree is worth it
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:43 pm to Ric Flair
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Back in the day, most middle class kids had parents pay for college with college savings, or at least had a plan with the kid to combine the amount of savings and job kid got in college to pay for college.
Nothing teaches adulthood like giving money to a college aged kid.
Believe it or not some people pay their own way through.
That said taking out loans for an engineering, science, accounting, or finance degree isnt dumb.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:44 pm to Ric Flair
I disagree. My parents divorced when my 3 siblings and myself were young. I was 1 year before TOPS started. Neither could afford my tuition even at $1,999.00 for my last semester in 2004. Trashy is assuming that you understand everyone’s situation. I make enough to pay my monthly payment especially at 2% interest.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:47 pm to Ric Flair
quote:Back in the day, you could pay for college with a job.
Back in the day, most middle class kids had parents pay for college with college savings, or at least had a plan with the kid to combine the amount of savings and job kid got in college to pay for college.
That is completely out of the question now.
quote:College is expensive as frick and even schools like LSU cost upwards of $120,000 for 4 years.
I understand loans for grad school and professional school, but racking up significant amount of student loan debt as an undergrad seems like a significant lack of foresight and judgement from both parents and students, and is therefore trashy.
Imagine having more than one child.
Destroy all government loan programs and you’ll fix the problem.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:53 pm to Ric Flair
No. What's trashy is the previous generations telling people that they need to go to college because they should be thankful of the opportunities that they themselves didn't have. "Be whatever you want to be". "Just get a degree."
What they fail to realize is that anyone with half a brain can get a degree and it's been that way for 2 decades or longer now. There isn't anything special or distinguishing about it anymore.
It's an investment like anything else. Take out loans if you know you will make a return. It comes down to realistic parenting. I was dumb as frick when I was 18, but I was at least smart enough to go for a money making degree. If I didn't have that sense, I would have needed a parent or someone to tell me I was being dumb as hell and to skip college if I wanted to pursue gender studies.
What they fail to realize is that anyone with half a brain can get a degree and it's been that way for 2 decades or longer now. There isn't anything special or distinguishing about it anymore.
It's an investment like anything else. Take out loans if you know you will make a return. It comes down to realistic parenting. I was dumb as frick when I was 18, but I was at least smart enough to go for a money making degree. If I didn't have that sense, I would have needed a parent or someone to tell me I was being dumb as hell and to skip college if I wanted to pursue gender studies.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:53 pm to Ric Flair
Tradition has been to save and let the interest help your money grow. There will be incoming freshman that have never lived in a time of a decent interest rate.
The stock market has risen exponentially though. Get the loans even if you don't need them, invest them, then pay them back before interest kicks in.
The stock market has risen exponentially though. Get the loans even if you don't need them, invest them, then pay them back before interest kicks in.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:53 pm to Ric Flair
quote:Eh, I graduated from a top school with only 20k in debt, rest came from grants (get close to a full ride if your household income is below 100k), and now I don't need a graduate degree. Sucks to suck i.e. having to go to graduate school if you don't plan on med school. Bad life decisions.
Back in the day, most middle class kids had parents pay for college with college savings, or at least had a plan with the kid to combine the amount of savings and job kid got in college to pay for college.
I understand loans for grad school and professional school, but racking up significant amount of student loan debt as an undergrad seems like a significant lack of foresight and judgement from both parents and students, and is therefore trashy.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:55 pm to Ric Flair
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parents pay for college
My dad died when I was 12 and my mother when I was still in college. I did it on my own with loan help. I’m in my 30s and almost have it all paid back. Not everyone is as lucky as you, stop being a judgemental prick and mind your business.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:00 pm to Ric Flair
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Back in the day, most middle class kids had parents pay for college with college savings, or at least had a plan with the kid to combine the amount of savings and job kid got in college to pay for college.
I am uncertain if that is actually correct on its face, I will say that if you look at the raw numbers, it looks to me like the student loan rate did not rise as fast as the cost of attending college.
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I understand loans for grad school and professional school, but racking up significant amount of student loan debt as an undergrad seems like a significant lack of foresight and judgement from both parents and students, and is therefore trashy.
That is a case by case basis and those decisions may take a lot more into account than you are giving credit for. Some may actually have the money but may want their kid to be responsible for the cost to a degree so have them take out a student loan that they can pay back by earning it when they leave college by either graduating or dropping out. And may reward the graduate with some or all of the money for the loan. Just a thought on that.
I do think many people do it without any real forethought
None of that is trashy, some may be irresponsible or shortsighted but not trashy.
Trashy is making a blanket derogatory statement about people trying their best to allow their kids an opportunity to do better in life.
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