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re: This Is What Life Without Retirement Savings Looks Like

Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14896 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

I know several people that should be retired or, at least, close to retirement. But, instead of retiring, they are planning on working until later in life, hanging on to jobs younger people should have.




Oh the entitlement
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:18 pm to


Hey oldman, you working? Me, just trying to stay drunk. These hydro 10's are not helping the pain in my neck along with JB.
Posted by KingBarkus
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
8348 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:18 pm to
I saw a report this week of a record number of new "millionaire" 401k folks since the Trump election. I was surprised at the rather modest number.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:22 pm to
It's coming. Some things one just shouldn't wish for and a market correction is one of them. Last one, 3 trillion dollars were gone in one day. Only the supper rich got that monies.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36178 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:22 pm to
Yes I’m working Fish, finding entertainment here!
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:25 pm to
Used to do the same back in the day, or should I say night.
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

If the government is going to force me to pay for others retirements via SS, there should at least be an opportunity to select a safe investment vehicle in which that money could go to. I hate pissing that money away with every paycheck knowing that SS won’t exist when I’m ready to retire. Worlds largest Ponzi scheme and the gov has us all fooled.



You aren't forced to pay it. I don't.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36178 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:29 pm to
So, you’re drunk posting?
Should be a good thread
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:36 pm to
Not really drunk, lite buzz. For some reason, I can't get drunk. Started drinking around noon today.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 12:03 am to
What pisses me off is that I make enough money that sometime during October every year I get to stop paying SS tax because I have reached the maximum for the year, but I will never see a fricking dime of it.

I am a soon to be 45 year old Gen X'r, by the way.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32486 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 12:19 am to
quote:

it wasn't until about 1980 that the 401K was even invented. people didn't make much money back then, but their benefits and retirement programs provided security.



So...


401ks didn't come around till these people were in their late 20's?


My dad is 66. He was 29 in 1980.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 12:21 am to
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the median savings in a 401(k) plan for people between the ages of 55 and 64 is currently just $15,000,


That is just plain embarrassing. You might as well not heave an account.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261680 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 12:27 am to
quote:

Baby boomers, or those born between 1946 and 1964, expect they’ll need $658,000 in their defined contribution plans by the time they retire, but the average in those employer-sponsored plans is $263,000, according to a survey of 900 investors by financial services firm Legg Mason. Older boomers, who are 65 to 74, have an average of $300,000. Their asset allocation for all of their investments are also conservative, according to QS Investors, an investment management firm Legg Mason acquired in 2014, with 30% in cash, 24% in equities, 22% in fixed income, 4% in non-traditional assets, 8% in investment real estate, 2% in gold and other precious metals and 8% in other investments.


LINK

Doesn't look that bad

What about those with standard pensions?
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
40998 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 12:40 am to
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There are plenty of millennials on here that live in 350k houses on 85k income.


Assuming the put down 20-30% (possibly a big assumption), what’s the problem here?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 1:32 am to
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Based upon the modeling from our FA, we will make more money after retirement per year than we did while working. Suck it.


Based on my 40 years of real life investing experience plan on having half what your FA model says. I don't recall a single investment model that accounted for the crashes of 1987, 1990, 2000, 2001, 2007, and a bunch of smaller declines.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 1:33 am
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:26 am to
That is what I was saying to that young fool last night.

1990 cost me 80+k.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:43 am to
quote:

quote:
There are plenty of millennials on here that live in 350k houses on 85k income.


Assuming the put down 20-30% (possibly a big assumption), what’s the problem here?


That's a tight budget to me. Sure that's my opinion. But we make a lot more than that and live in a house that's barely 300k. I'm sure it's doable, just seems tight.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11744 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:49 am to
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Oh the entitlement


Exactly. You’d figure the old fricks could just retire and live off their SS entitlement.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29433 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 6:52 am to
quote:

There are plenty of millennials on here that live in 350k houses on 85k income.

Do you have any concept of what houses cost now?

In South Louisiana, an average house in a good area with good schools is going to cost between $250k and $350k.

Of all the things to bitch at millenials about, this ain’t one.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 7:00 am to
quote:

There are plenty of millennials on here that live in 350k houses on 85k income.


And they'll be in the same boat someday, while their own kids will say "good, frick em!"
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