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re: What's your gumbo recipe?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:41 pm to MorbidTheClown
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:41 pm to MorbidTheClown
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Well, i failed miserably at this. I used the Minor's stuff to make the stock and tried to follow the recipe with pics in the other thread. Gumbo had almost no flavor at all.Looked good but,tasted like slightly briny water. No idea what i did wrong.
That’s why I said to use more than the recommended amount
I had to almost quadruple what the tub said to get the stock where I wanted it. Or do like Gris said and use it alongside your shrimp heads and crabs.
And make sure to taste that stock like crazy. It’s the only way to tell what you need to add more of.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:43 pm to MorbidTheClown
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recommended was 1bsp per quart of water. I made a very small 2 qt batch and used 2 1/2 tbsp
I did almost 4 tbsp for 1 quart. The recommended amount gave me slightly flavored water.
quote:use this with the amount of minors you put in. If you’re using just minors, use a lot of it.
i guess next time i'll add gumbo crabs and throw in the heads/shells from the shrimp i intend to use ?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:07 pm to MorbidTheClown
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I tasted it before adding anything and it basically tasted like briny water. much like the finished product. but, i wasn't really sure how it should taste so, i thought that was normal.
As I said in a few posts before, a good strong stock it key in seafood gumbo, much more so than in chicken and sausage gumbo. If the stock tastes as you described, it's not going to be any better in the end. Seafood gumbo it a bit trickier than chicken and sausage. Sausage has a strong flavor and a good sausage can actually carry an otherwise mundane chicken gumbo. Not so with seafood gumbo.
It took me a while to learn that the stock has to be strong to get to that flavor you need. I'm still working to perfect it. I also find that the shells from the shrimp you're going to use for the gumbo aren't necessarily enough to get a good stock. I freeze leftover shells all the time to use for a stock when I'm peeling shrimp. You can, however, use more gumbo crabs if you're short on shells and, of course, you can add oyster liquor.
Don't beat yourself up over this first attempt. It was a good learning experience.
I think I've mentioned that I've never used the dried shrimp or dried shrimp powder to make a stock. Maybe some folks who have will chime in. Experimenting with that is on my list for this year. I figure I can just make a stock and see how it turns out before I decide whether to actually use it in gumbo.
I've also mentioned that when I haven't had enough shells, I've bought some cheap tiny shrimp in shells and used them to make a stock, meat and all. That worked out well.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:19 pm to Gris Gris
GG,
So i made my first oven roux and man was it simple and full proof. I got quick directions from some lady's blog.
Any pointers\tips from the recipe i followed.
1:1 ratio (used Veg oil)
started on stove for 5 minutes then transferred to 350 degree oven
i stirred it about every 20 minutes
after about 1.5 hours, I took it out. It wasn't that dark chocolate look i was going for but didn't have any more time to let it keep going
is that basically what you do?
So i made my first oven roux and man was it simple and full proof. I got quick directions from some lady's blog.
Any pointers\tips from the recipe i followed.
1:1 ratio (used Veg oil)
started on stove for 5 minutes then transferred to 350 degree oven
i stirred it about every 20 minutes
after about 1.5 hours, I took it out. It wasn't that dark chocolate look i was going for but didn't have any more time to let it keep going
is that basically what you do?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:30 pm to LSUvegasbombed
Yes, but finish it to the desired color on the stove if you want. I usually start it in the oven, prep everything, Brown the meats, then pull the roux out and finish on the stove.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:32 pm to TH03
Don't you have to constantly stir the roux?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:38 pm to Tiger Ryno
Not in the oven. It doesn’t get hot enough to burn which is the reason for the stirring on the stove.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 4:18 pm to LSUvegasbombed
I don’t stir it that often at the beginning but then again, my rouxs are usually larger. You can up the oven temp to 375 to go a bit faster, but oven roux takes longer so allow for time to make it.
I use peanut oil and now go about 1 c flour to 3/4 c oil.
I use peanut oil and now go about 1 c flour to 3/4 c oil.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:02 am to Gris Gris
Made a second attempt at seafood gumbo this weekend. I doubled the recommended amount of Minor's added a/ dz gumbo crabs and the heads and shells from 2lbs of shrimp I got for the gumbo.
simmered this mixture for a few hours. Tasted it and it was EXTREMELY salty. So, I added about 5 more cups of water, let it simmer for a while longer still really salty.Added a little more water and simmered. a little less salty.
made roux with 1 cup of oil 1 1/4 cup flour. Got it good and dark, added the trinity. cooked the trinity in roux for a few minutes. Added that to the stock and simmered for 2 hrs. in the end it just tasted like really salty water. so, i just stopped there and didn't add the seafood.
no idea what i'm doing wrong. Frustrating wasting a whole day with nothing edible to show for it.
simmered this mixture for a few hours. Tasted it and it was EXTREMELY salty. So, I added about 5 more cups of water, let it simmer for a while longer still really salty.Added a little more water and simmered. a little less salty.
made roux with 1 cup of oil 1 1/4 cup flour. Got it good and dark, added the trinity. cooked the trinity in roux for a few minutes. Added that to the stock and simmered for 2 hrs. in the end it just tasted like really salty water. so, i just stopped there and didn't add the seafood.
no idea what i'm doing wrong. Frustrating wasting a whole day with nothing edible to show for it.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:03 am to MorbidTheClown
Make the stock without the Minor's. After you strain it, then taste it and determine where you need the Minor's to shore it up or not. If you need it, add a little at a time, tasting as you go. If you have enough gumbo crabs and shrimp shells, you shouldn't even need the Minor's.
I've never had the salt issue. Are you adding any other type of salt product?
Sorry about your experience.
I've never had the salt issue. Are you adding any other type of salt product?
Sorry about your experience.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:08 am to MorbidTheClown
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just tasted like really salty water.
Did you use all of the stock you made? If you added 5 more cups of water, that's gonna be a really watery gumbo without adding more roux.
I made seafood gumbo last weekend. Made the stock with shrimp heads and peels then added some minors to help round it out. The minors does get salty, but I usually don't have to add any more salt when I'm tasting later.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:26 am to Gris Gris
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Sorry about your experience.
definitely not anyone here's fault, but, thanks
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Are you adding any other type of salt product?
nope, I didn't add any seasoning at all.
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Make the stock without the Minor's.
i think i will take this approach next. Just glad I didn't waste the seafood. Now I have a pound of lump crab meat, 2 lbs of shrimp and 1 dz oysters. Think i'll have fried shrimp and oysters and crab cakes.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:38 am to MorbidTheClown
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i think i will take this approach next.
I always make a stock first, whether seafood or poultry, before adding any base to shore it up. The stock doesn't always need anything. Just depends on the strength of it.
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Now I have a pound of lump crab meat, 2 lbs of shrimp and 1 dz oysters. Think i'll have fried shrimp and oysters and crab cakes.
At least you have some fine meals ahead of you!
Kudos for continuing to work on that gumbo, though!
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:23 pm to MorbidTheClown
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I doubled the recommended amount of Minor's
Dont use Minors. Its gumbo. Why are you adding a base? Your have the base in flour and oil.
How are you making the stock? With or without salt?
Also if you are only using a 1 cup of roux, you only need about 4 quarts of water/stock at most. Check the consistency before adding more stock. If you put too much water you will either have to boil it out or add more roux.
Let the roux simmer for as long as you would like and then add your seafood.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:37 am to saintsfan1977
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Dont use Minors. Its gumbo. Why are you adding a base? Your have the base in flour and oil.
It was a seafood stock base to shore up his seafood stock. It has nothing to do with flour and oil/roux.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:46 am to Gris Gris
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It was a seafood stock base to shore up his seafood stock. It has nothing to do with flour and oil/roux.
Dont need that shite. The seafood stock is plenty enough. Why complicate it? Its a gumbo.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:56 am to saintsfan1977
It's for making stock or helping a weak stock get a little stronger. I use it along with shrimp heads and peels because I don't feel like driving all the way to Plano for the only place I know that has gumbo crabs.
It's not complicated to take a spoonful and dump it in simmering stock...
It's not complicated to take a spoonful and dump it in simmering stock...
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:08 am to TH03
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gumbo crabs.
No point in this. Nobody wants to eat some baby crabs. Use lump crab meat and/or crab fingers.
90% of the gumbo I make is with water. Very few I make using a stock and I can promise you would never know it. I tried both and there is no point in going out of my way to make a stock. I can make it taste excellent with tap water.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 6:32 pm to saintsfan1977
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I can make it taste excellent with tap water.
mind posting your recipe?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 7:01 pm to TDsngumbo
Only way I like okra I a pan fried fresh out my garden with some corn meal and Tony's.
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