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re: Regardless of how we do on the field. The league office will not allow LSU to win

Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:32 pm to
If bama loses tbey will still get in playoff unless they lose again. I promise u the sec doesn't want the sec left out but I don't see them cheating to get there. They don't need to. Bama is that much better
Posted by PlayActionPass
Member since Jan 2014
381 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:34 pm to
100% true..we all know but your right it sounds bad.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40017 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:37 pm to
The ref issue separates the losers from the rest. Anyone who thinks there is a Bama bias is a loser.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:39 pm to
2014 game - officials call chintzy PF penalty on Vadal Alexander after LSU had recovered Bama fumble at their 5. The Bama player flopped after being lightly pushed by Alexander. Meanwhile, refs totally miss Gump player(#99) who had an LSU player in a headlock right in front of official. (Btw, the flopping Gump player wouldn't let go of Alexander's leg, thus provoking Vadal's light shove).

2016 game - Chintzy late hit penalty called on Devon White which extends Bama TD drive. On TD run by Hurts, obvious offensive holding by Bama conveniently missed by officials.

This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 10:43 pm
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5999 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:44 pm to
It is not paranoia if they are out to get you.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28802 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 11:28 pm to
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It’s what is not called at crucial times you idiot. I probably will not watch due to the bias. As an Auburn fan once explained to me: THE CHECKS COME OUT OF BIRMINGHAM!

That's what these willing idiots can't process.

For fricks sake, There's photo evidence of the refs failing to make clear game-changing calls in at least two recent games.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4740 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 4:33 am to
We learned in 2011 that beating bama in their house doesn't mean that they are out of the championship race. I don't think it's an issue.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22508 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 5:31 am to
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Bama is a favorite for a reason but a lock because of the League office.
I like a good conspiracy theory. At the same time, I know when to draw the line.

Not saying this general mindset at SEC Central isn’t so. But to say LSU is powerless against it is a misread of their ability to prevent LSU from winning. Alabama can do that by playing Alabama level football. LSU can do that by playing like we did versus Moo U or Troy or even UF. Refs can make it harder to win by calls and no-calls.

But if LSU plays at a flawless level, brings it on, and dominates on the field without losing focus and being stupid, then we could all be celebrating an amazing victory.

But a key to victory must include a flawless game in all phases, mental toughness and runaway scoring that negates any likely ref meddling at crucial points.

When we say LSU controls their own destiny, that must by definition mean it starts with LSU controlling this and every subsequent game.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 5:38 am
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:20 am to
U boys need to hope Tom Ritter isn't the ref!!! If he is it is a BAMA win!!!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27931 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:43 am to
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Even if the ball bounces our way and we play above our heads the officials will be instructed to make sure we dont escape with a W. We are a long shot with all things being equal but the wont be. Bama is a favorite for a reason but a lock because of the League office.



....Not if we cheat.....bigly!!!!!!!! That would be yuuuuuuuuuge!!!!!!!

Remember, Bama is allowed to hold and Jalen Hurts is a delicate person
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:47 am to
Why watch if you think the outcome has been predetermined?
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:50 am to
Part of me wants to call you an idiot. The other part of me remembers this overturned int...

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111231 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:54 am to
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Even if the ball bounces our way and we play above our heads the officials will be instructed to make sure we dont escape with a W. We are a long shot with all things being equal but the wont be. Bama is a favorite for a reason but a lock because of the League office.

So how do you explain Bama losing at least 1 conference in game in 6 of the past 7 seasons?
Posted by LATECHgradLSUfan
LA
Member since Sep 2007
3268 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 9:54 am to
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Part of me wants to call you an idiot. The other part of me remembers this overturned int


All honesty I was thinking the same thing as I read the post.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:35 am to
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All honesty I was thinking the same thing as I read the post.


I'm still pissed about that bullshite.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6899 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:43 am to
SEC refs remind me of the refs in "Remember the Titans" where the league offical tells Coach Yost, "Don't worry about Boone winning out, we got this!"
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 10:57 am to
There is no way in hell a ref would ever do anything that may change the outcome of a game. EVER


Alabama - Ole Miss game.

What was really hilarious is that the Bama RB was actually almost a yard short of where the ref decided to mark it in the first place.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:45 am to
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Regardless of how we do on the field. The league office will not allow LSU to win


Nah...and I'm SUPER QUICK to continually point out how fricking absurd it is that the league members sit back and allow an Alabama alumnus to be Head of Officiating. There's no conspiracy...

But...is there bias? You bet your sweet arse there is. And it has nothing to do with Saban. I ran the numbers several years ago stopping with 2012 I think, but every year from 2000 through then Alabama was penalized much less than LSU on the season. Now...that's kind of odd, right? It didn't matter who was the coach...the guys in Crimson simply did not draw as many flags.

And here's the fun part...we actually share a coach, remember? A guy renowned for being a fricking hard arse and up officials' assholes about calls? While at LSU, his LSU teams were much more penalized than BAMA's...whether it was Dubose, Franchione or even Mike Shula. ALL of them somehow managed a more well disciplined team than Saban's LSU squads. Must be that Tuscaloosa climate...

I'm not gonna bother, but someone can pick up the slack and actually do some research and find out some numbers if you'd like. I'd first look for calls like TARGETING and see how many BAMA has had over the past few seasons. That's a big one, because it takes a player out for an entire game. For a team as aggressive as they are, you ought to see a handful that could even be considered accidental. Next I'd look for first half holding calls if you can find that one.

But no...in no way do I think there is some meeting where Steve Shaw gets together with Tom Ritter and the rest of the officiating crew and they sit there listening to Skynrd talking about how they need to protect Nick and the Tide. That could be dealt with...the real truth is kind of worse I think. Really hard to deal with institutional bias, especially when if you point it out your own fans suggest you're just scared.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:56 am to
i am so tired of our fans crying about the refs. I do remember the first time we beat bama in TS in 30 years we committed PI once or twice in the EZ and no flag was thrown
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14539 posts
Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:57 am to
There is intentional and unintentional bias. LSU has had a lot of personal fouls and targeting calls this season. For that reason alone we will get more scrutiny.

Bama historical gets very few holding calls and refs will likely not look as closely or call as tight against Bama.

It's more of a natural bias vs intentional. That being said, I don't doubt that there are times that Bama gets a tip of the hat from SEC officials.
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