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re: John Besh and Company Accused of Sexual Harrassment
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:45 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:45 am to Chad504boy
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You are running an empire and behaving trashy on top of the lack of HR and very little attention to the serious nature of sexual harassment etc. I have very little sympathy here.
he had a consensual affair....now the woman is screaming sexual harassment....
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:45 am to birdieman
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Besh is a well known sack of shite and Shaya is no better. Surprised this took so long to become news. Shaya is just covering his arse. He is a complete a-hole too.
Unless Shaya is banging his younger employees and engaging in similar behavior as Besh he will, and should, skate by. I haven't seen one credible allegation other than "he's an a-hole." Being an a-hole in the kitchen (or out of it) is not a big deal at all. Most big name chefs are pretty big pricks.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:46 am to birdieman
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I used to frequent the same bars as a lot of the named people in this. Besh is a well known sack of shite and Shaya is no better. Surprised this took so long to become news. Shaya is just covering his arse. He is a complete a-hole too.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:48 am to tgrbaitn08
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he had a consensual affair.
trashy
what not to do with subordinates
lack of hr and sexual harassment protocols in office workplace regardless.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:49 am to tgrbaitn08
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John Besh steps down as head of restaurant empire
Damn. Domenica is one of my favorite places in the city
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:50 am to birdieman
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Alon Shaya Says Besh Restaurant Group Fired Him for Speaking Out About Sexual Harassment Allegations
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chef Alon Shaya, who is in the midst of a contentious split from the group, has released a statement on the allegations from 25 women. He says his decision to reach out to the Times-Pic with his concerns about its lack of human resources resulted in his termination as executive chef of Domenica, Pizza Domenica, and namesake restaurant, Shaya. The paper was already conducting its months-long investigation.
In a Facebook post, Shaya says that on “multiple occasions over the years” he asked Besh Restaurant Group to provide human resources support for its restaurants, but “each overture [he] made was summarily rejected.”
LINK
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:52 am to tgrbaitn08
Shaya is killing the PR game right now
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:55 am to HurricaneDunc
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Welcome to every restaurant everywhere....
I spent a great deal of time managing restaurants. I had someone close to me go into the restaurant management business. I took one look around his restaurant, pointed to one of the senior managers, and told my friend to be prepared to take that guy's job. Within months, that guy was fired for doing a Fredo with the waitresses. You can spot the guys who are in it for the tail and free booze.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:58 am to REG861
So Shaya knew about the sexual harassment going on for 10 years but never did anything about it...yeah..frick him too
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:04 pm to tgrbaitn08
Possibly. Or maybe he manipulated her and pressured her into the relationship using his power and money, and when she called him on it, he repurposed it as a run-of-the-mill affair.
Point is, no one really knows but them at this point, so we should probably avoid snap judgments.
Point is, no one really knows but them at this point, so we should probably avoid snap judgments.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:10 pm to tgrbaitn08
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So Shaya knew about the sexual harassment going on for 10 years but never did anything about it...yeah..frick him too
Talked to someone close to all of this (i.e. in the BRG) and was told all this came about because Shaya wanted his namesake restaurant when he broke off on his own. Without a doubt Shaya knew where to hit BRG hard.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:12 pm to HurricaneDunc
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Welcome to every restaurant everywhere....
I never worked in restaurants. Why do restaurants have a natural culture of sexual harrassment?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:14 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Talked to someone close to all of this (i.e. in the BRG) and was told all this came about because Shaya wanted his namesake restaurant when he broke off on his own. Without a doubt Shaya knew where to hit BRG hard.
I dont doubt for one second that Alon is behind all of this...however, he is just as guilty as Besh
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:18 pm to Carson123987
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standard restaurant fare. get thicker skin
There's a spicy hot take.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:22 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I dont doubt for one second that Alon is behind all of this...however, he is just as guilty as Besh
You clearly have a dog in this fight. at what point is it besh's own fault? No one has personally accused shaya of anything resembling what Besh has personally been accused of. All I've seen so far are vague accusations of him being an a-hole. That's not going to keep me from going to his restaurant (when he gets it back in short order).
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:28 pm to JasonL79
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At what point does this woman have responsibility in this whole thing? Didn’t she choose to have an affair with a married man? Could she have quit and went to work somewhere else before the act happened?
Rich celebrity chef vs young, poor girl starting in her career...I'm sure she could have just quit and found a new job somewhere because it's so easy.
Or...maybe she was afraid because if she did quit, Besh would make some phone calls and do his best to ruin her career. There is a big difference from the Besh we see on TV and the Besh behind the scenes. He sounds like a complete POS.
So while I agree that she made the choice and she did sleep with him, exactly what choice did she really have, or felt like she had? And of course, replace this woman with your wife/daughter/sister and then let me know how she "made her own choice."
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:29 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Can easily see this being the end of Bush in the public eye for a very long time. He will probably resign from his company to "work on his marriage."
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John Besh steps down as head of restaurant empire
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While Besh denied the allegations of workplace harassment, he did acknowledge an affair with a female employee, and said he was trying to repair the damage that affair did to his family.
Called it
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:32 pm to REG861
I dont have a dog in this fight...but if Shaya knew about the sexual harassment and never said anything about it until he got canned makes me very skeptical to believe anything he says
and yes....there are plenty of people takling about the sexual harassment that went on in Shaya's restaurants.
and yes....there are plenty of people takling about the sexual harassment that went on in Shaya's restaurants.
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Current and former staff of Shaya's BRG restaurants say his restaurants were not the safe havens from sexual harassment that he described.
"While working as a line cook at Shaya, I heard daily 'jokes' about rape, including one joke about pedophilia," a former line cook wrote in a resignation email sent in January. Male colleagues, she wrote, "would call grapeseed oil 'rapeseed' and use that as an opportunity to joke about rape. They also would say in a weird accent, 'She run, but I always catch her.' A (male colleague) one time said a food item was 'dryer than an 8-year-old.'"
The former line cook, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of hurting future job prospects, said work conditions didn't improve even after she complained. Elizabeth Campbell, a former Shaya line cook, said she witnessed the abuse directed at the former line cook and it "made me feel very uncomfortable." Campbell said she now regrets not having complained herself.
"I saw this subtle violence that was in front of me," Campbell said. "I just accepted it because I thought it was okay. I thought the goal was to put out really delicious food."
Campbell said she was fired from her job at Shaya in June after 13 months, for crying during work.
Campbell said Alon Shaya told her when he dismissed her, "'It's really a shame, because you're talented, but you have to not cry at work. You really have to be stronger and don't let your environment get to you.'" She added: "It bothered me, because it was an environment that he created."
Alon Shaya, in his most recent interview, recalled both incidents. He said the employee responsible for the jokes referenced in the former line cook's email was disciplined. Both he and BRG provided documentation that the discipline occurred. Alon Shaya said he regretted that the disciplinary action did not change work conditions enough to keep the female line cook from quitting. He also said he did not intend to "make excuses" for the offending employee's behavior in his conversation with her.
"I'm not trying to minimize anybody's complaints or concerns," Shaya said.
As for Campbell, Shaya said "we worked to help her with her situation" but that her crying was "disrupting the customer experience in the restaurant."
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Another employee, a former Domenica waitress who asked to remain anonymous, said she complained multiple times over two years about a male colleague who made sexual comments and showed her inappropriate photos.
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In October, a 23-year-old recently hired busser at Shaya restaurant said she started to become uncomfortable with a male superior.
"In a restaurant, it's a tight space," she said. "People put their hand on your back to get by. But he'd put his hand on my waist, or my butt."
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One of those employees, a 21-year-old Tulane undergrad who asked her name not be used, said the same man repeatedly hit on her during work and over text messages. During one shift, the woman said, "I was bussing a table and he came up to me out of the blue and said, 'I bet you wear nightgowns to sleep, don't you?'"
The woman said the company had not offered her any guidance on how to handle sexual harassment or file a complaint. "I Googled it a couple of days ago," she said in an August interview, "and I couldn't find a form or anything."
In October, another female Shaya employee contacted NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune to report being harassed by the same manager. "I remember one time when he came up to me and said, 'Am I on your top three list of guys at Shaya? Because you're on mine,'" she said. "How do you respond to that when you're at work?"
Campbell, the former Shaya sous chef, said she had her own run-in with the man last Mardi Gras season. She said she had received a king cake from the restaurant but not yet paid for it. On the way out of work, Campbell said she told him, "I'll pay for it tomorrow." She said he replied, "Don't worry about it, as long as it involves the back of your throat.'"
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:34 pm to supadave3
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I know nothing other than what’s been reported, but it sucks to see someone work his entire life to have it taken from him like this.
How do some of you manage to walk and breathe at the same time?
"Well I know he ignored and engaged in rampant sexual harassment throughout his company, but the man is a good Catholic and shouldn't suffer because of one moment of weakness."
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