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re: Swiss Investor Marc Faber: America would be like Zimbabwe if blacks were the majority

Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:12 pm to
Interesting since Timbuktu had the world's first university. Of course, that was before white occupation and taking over of places in Africa and creating a welfare state and disenfranchising its own citizens.

It's easy to see what you want to see when you don't want to have to acknowledge the generations and hundreds of years that black people have been bred for certain features, that have been enslaved, generations of shity Education because they weren't allowed to go to the same school as whites, and then had a very hard time landing similar jobs as white people.

I know it's easier to just assume that they're not good enough and that you're so much genetically Superior but that just isn't the case.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:17 pm to
No was is saying that there is a genetic difference. It's cultural and value differences, which happens after birth. It is fixable but it has to start from the inside.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:25 pm to
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Interesting since Timbuktu had the world's first university. Of course, that was before white occupation and taking over of places in Africa and creating a welfare state and disenfranchising its own citizens.


And the Egyptians, Greeks and Italians (even if we call them Romans) all were the apex of western civilization and culture at one point. Just like this university you hold up as some touchstone of leading thought, though, all these are centuries in the past.

If it is heresy to suggest that Lincoln (in the 1860's) or even the Republicans that passed the VRA and CRA (in the 1960's) are emblematic of today's GOP, how does this random factoid have any bearing on the fact that virtually every African country for the last 100 years has been a basket case of corruption and poverty?
Posted by RobbBobb
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:25 pm to
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Interesting since Timbuktu had the world's first university.

Southern has a University too. I'm not sure either proves anything as far as 'progress' goes, tho
Posted by dunkelman
shreveport
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:30 pm to
Is Timbuktu in Zimbabwe? I would post some smart-arse comment about sundowners, but you already have that base covered.
Posted by TaTa Toothy
Everything in its right place
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:39 pm to
If only the white man had not raped and exploited Africa we'd already be able to time travel and have 3 generations of humans on Mars already. Damn shame.
Posted by chickenpotpie
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:00 am to
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Interesting since Timbuktu had the world's first university.


Timbuktu was founded in the 11th century and became a permanent settlement in the 12th century. According to collegestats.org, these 6 universities were founded before Timbuktu even became a permanent settlement. And that also discounts the schools in every ancient culture, including the Egyptians, Greeks, & Romans. The use of "university" is a little dishonest. Which as you can see below, was coined to describe the University of Bologna at its founding. So, technically, that would be the first university.

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University of Al-Karaouine: Located in Fes, Morocco, this university originally was a mosque founded in 859 by Fatima al-Fihri, a woman. It developed into one of the leading universities for natural sciences. It wasn’t until 1957 that the university added mathematics, physics, chemistry and foreign languages. This university is considered the oldest continuously-operating degree-granting university in the world by the Guiness Book of World Records.

Al-Azhar University: This university, located in Egypt, is the world’s second oldest surviving degree-granting institute. Founded in 970-972, this university serves as a center for Arabic literature and Sunni Islamic learning. Al-Azhar university concentrates upon a religious syllabus, which pays special attention to the Quranic sciences and traditions of the Prophet Muhammad on the one hand, while also teaching all modern fields of science.

Nizamiyya: This series of universities was established by Khwaja Nizam al-Mulk in the eleventh century in what is now present-day Iran. The most celebrated of all the Nizamiyya schools is Al-Nizamiyya of Baghdad, established in 1065 in Dhu’l Qa’da and that remains operational in Isfahan. But, this was just one of many Nizamiyyah schools — others were located in Nishapur, Amul, Mosul, Herat, Damascus, and Basra. The Nizamiyya schools served as a model for future universities in the region, and al-Mulk often is seen as responsible for a new era of brilliance which caused his schools to eclipse all other contemporary learning institutions.

University of Bologna: This university was the first higher-learning institute established in the Western world in 1088. The term, “university,” was coined at its creation. Located in Bologna, Italy, this university led the Western world in educational innovations until the period between the two World Wars. At that time, leaders called upon the university to forge relationships with institutions in more advanced countries to modernize and re-invigorate its educational philosophies. This university met the call and, today, is considered a leader in the European university system.

University of Paris: This university’s exact founding is unclear; however, teaching from this university existed since 1096. The university was reorganized as 13 autonomous universities in 1970. Often referred to as the Sorbonne after the College de Sorbonne (founded about 1257), this institute grew up in the latter part of the twelfth century around Notre Dame Cathedral as a corporation centered on the fields of arts, medicine, law and theology. In 1968 the cultural revolution commonly known as “the French May” resulted in the closing of the university for only the third time in history. The first occasion was in 1229, and the second was due to the invasion by the German army of 1940.

University of Oxford: Like the University of Paris, the exact date of this university’s founding is unclear. The formal founding date, however, is 1096 — although teaching from the Oxford location is considerably older than this date. This institute developed rapidly from 1167, when Henry II banned English students from attending the University of Paris. The school has temporarily closed twice, once in 1209 for the town execution of two scholars and in 1355 for the St. Scholastica riot. Currently, this oldest English-speaking university contains 38 colleges, each with its own internal structure and activities.


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Of course, that was before white occupation and taking over of places in Africa and creating a welfare state and disenfranchising its own citizens.


If that's true, please show evidence of all the great & wonderful civilizations & advancements in science & technology that all the African tribes had before the Europeans showed up. I'm pretty sure they were still running around in loin cloths & using spears. Also, how do you explain the vast drop in success of Zimbabwe & South Africa after the whites were displaced? Wouldn't it be easier to at least maintain success instead of building it from the ground up like the white settlers did?

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hundreds of years that black people have been bred for certain features


That's just hilarious. So, you admit that black people are genetically inferior to whites in intelligence, right? You can't claim they were bred for strength at the expense of intelligence and then say that they are equal to others.

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that have been enslaved, generations of shity Education because they weren't allowed to go to the same school as whites, and then had a very hard time landing similar jobs as white people.


Again, Africans existed for centuries before white people became involved in Africa. Why did they not advance at a rate comparable to Europe & Asia? Your argument also ignores the fact that non-blacks from poor countries have been able to find success in America.

I know you're liberal and just want to blame the lack of success of black people (as a whole) on the evil whiteys, but that simply isn't the case. There are several black people on this board that don't subscribe to the "cultcha" that so many blacks in America do and are quite successful. Why are black people from 2 parent, educated homes able to find success if they are so discriminated against? Maybe, just maybe, it's the prevalent culture so many subscribe to.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:16 am to
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Interesting since Timbuktu had the world's first university


It didn't. The first university had been established in Morocco before Timbuktu was even a permanent settlement.

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that was before white occupation and taking over of places in Africa


Again not true. The "university" was founded after north African Muslims took over.



Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42868 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:26 am to
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it's easier to just assume that they're not good enough and that you're so much genetically Superior but that just isn't the case.


This happens to support the mission statement of the DEMOCRAT party, the underlying tenet of the progressive movement, and the absolute marching orders of the MainSlime Media.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42868 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:42 am to
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Interesting since Timbuktu had the world's first university.


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The University was organized around three great Masajids or Mosques. The Masajid of Jingaray Ber, The Masajid of Sidi Yahya, The Masajid of Sankore. Masajids are places of worship for Muslims. Not only did students seek knowledge, but they also purified their souls through the sciences of Islam. Islam breeds leaders that are God fearing, just, honest, trustworthy and of excellent moral character. Graduate students were the embodiment of the teachings of the Holy Qur'an and the traditions of the Mohammed, the Prophet of Islam.


Someone been reading African Echo dreams.

But there is no doubt that Arab/Muslim scholars did in fact maintain the bulk of mathematical and philosophical progress thru the dark ages.

The difference is that western civilization emerged from the dark ages and went on to create modern civilization, while the while the opposite occurred in the Arab/Muslim world. And subSaharan Africa never made it to the standards of the dark ages until the European colonial period took hold.
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