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re: So is Auburn not a good team now?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:06 am to magildachunks
Posted on 10/17/17 at 10:06 am to magildachunks
I said before the game that Auburn was overrated. Hell, I said before the season that Auburn was overrated. I still thought they were better than LSU, and they may very well be, but they lost Saturday so it's moot. Point is they weren't ever the juggernaut that some people made them out to be.
Stidham is also grossly overrated. He throws a nice deep ball, but that's about it. Kerryon Johnson is legit though.
Stidham is also grossly overrated. He throws a nice deep ball, but that's about it. Kerryon Johnson is legit though.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 10:10 am
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:26 am to magildachunks
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So is Auburn not a good team now?
Of course not! For many on this board, if we beat a team, they must be garbage...
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:58 am to Lonnie4LSU
Youre absolutely right Lonnie as usual. This team is talented and way more experienced when last season ended than most want to believe. If you look at the team O inherited after the season ended last year it shouldve been ready to make a serious run especially with a competent returning Sr QB.
But attrition and the fact that his team was soft when the season began derailed any real hardware hopes.
O's philosophy wasnt working and LSU was out coached in the first 5 games of the season by some guys making 1/10 of their salaries. Which is totally unacceptable. But the goal posts have without a doubt moved with the new regime. The expectations are way lower for some reason in here.
Duke Riley came and woke up the players but more importantly the coaches.
I think O has found out the hard way that Miles knew what he was doing with the tough physical practices and hard workouts. And in general how to manage a big time college program. If Miles wouldve had Etling, LSU would be 7-0 and the Gump game would have major implications as usual under Miles. But, his decision to keep Cam Cameron and stay with Harris at QB cost him his job. It is what it is.
Hopefully, O has learned from his rookie mistakes at LSU and the light has come on and he can handle this pressure cooker of a job. Stay sober,keep his family intact, keep LSU out of NCAA sanctions and win big games and not lose at home as a 14 point favorite with the Sugar bowl at stake with a team full of NFL players or to the likes of Troy at home.
O inherited a gold mine, hopefully he can capitalize on it and propel the program forward not backward. I dont understand the lower expectations.
But attrition and the fact that his team was soft when the season began derailed any real hardware hopes.
O's philosophy wasnt working and LSU was out coached in the first 5 games of the season by some guys making 1/10 of their salaries. Which is totally unacceptable. But the goal posts have without a doubt moved with the new regime. The expectations are way lower for some reason in here.
Duke Riley came and woke up the players but more importantly the coaches.
I think O has found out the hard way that Miles knew what he was doing with the tough physical practices and hard workouts. And in general how to manage a big time college program. If Miles wouldve had Etling, LSU would be 7-0 and the Gump game would have major implications as usual under Miles. But, his decision to keep Cam Cameron and stay with Harris at QB cost him his job. It is what it is.
Hopefully, O has learned from his rookie mistakes at LSU and the light has come on and he can handle this pressure cooker of a job. Stay sober,keep his family intact, keep LSU out of NCAA sanctions and win big games and not lose at home as a 14 point favorite with the Sugar bowl at stake with a team full of NFL players or to the likes of Troy at home.
O inherited a gold mine, hopefully he can capitalize on it and propel the program forward not backward. I dont understand the lower expectations.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 8:56 am
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:00 pm to magildachunks
What this season is proving is that there aren't many "good teams" this year. Even Bama is overrated in the sense they are not as good as their previous teams, but all of college football is just down this year.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:13 pm to Geauxgurt
Another thing people don't realize is that once again, LSU couldn't run the ball to save themselves outside of the jetsweep. Auburn's front 7 shut down LSU's run game and the Jetsweep burned them leading to the first TD.
The second TD came from two plays. A horrible play by the DB on Chark where he gambled like an idiot, and the second on the dropped INT that would've ended the game in the first half basically.
Finally, great return aided by a block in the back, but those calls are missed all the time, that lead to a score.
Auburn's defense gave up 17 semi-legitimate points, of which 7 shouldn't have happened if their DBs weren't horrid.
All that said, LSU found a way to win, and kudos to the team for not giving up.
Auburn's offensive play calling in the second half was completely awful and a large reason for the loss. It was typical for Malzhan though and why a lot of folks on the Plains wanted him fired the last year.
The second TD came from two plays. A horrible play by the DB on Chark where he gambled like an idiot, and the second on the dropped INT that would've ended the game in the first half basically.
Finally, great return aided by a block in the back, but those calls are missed all the time, that lead to a score.
Auburn's defense gave up 17 semi-legitimate points, of which 7 shouldn't have happened if their DBs weren't horrid.
All that said, LSU found a way to win, and kudos to the team for not giving up.
Auburn's offensive play calling in the second half was completely awful and a large reason for the loss. It was typical for Malzhan though and why a lot of folks on the Plains wanted him fired the last year.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:27 pm to Geauxgurt
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Another thing people don't realize is that once again, LSU couldn't run the ball to save themselves outside of the jetsweep. Auburn's front 7 shut down LSU's run game and the Jetsweep burned them leading to the first TD.
That just means that Canada outschemed the D. Kind of what we are supposed to do.
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The second TD came from two plays. A horrible play by the DB on Chark where he gambled like an idiot, and the second on the dropped INT that would've ended the game in the first half basically
One of Auburns TDs was set up by a Chark fumble. Tolliver cut in front of 2 passes that could have been pick 6's and DJ dropped one. The possible INT of Etling doesn't happen if the WR doesn't fall on his cut. You can play "what if" either way.
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Auburn's offensive play calling in the second half was completely awful and a large reason for the loss. It was typical for Malzhan though and why a lot of folks on the Plains wanted him fired the last year.
In the 1st half Greedy knocks away a TD pass. In the 2nd Tolliver broke up 2 good passes with tight coverage and DJ made 4 great PBUs. We also figured out how to stop the run. Just because our D stepped up doesn't mean their playcalling was bad.
It's kind of ridiculous that some folks take a great performance by LSU and try to "explain it away".
Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:14 pm to BayouCowboy
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That just means that Canada outschemed the D. Kind of what we are supposed to do.
On that play? Yes. Most of the game, no.
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One of Auburns TDs was set up by a Chark fumble. Tolliver cut in front of 2 passes that could have been pick 6's and DJ dropped one. The possible INT of Etling doesn't happen if the WR doesn't fall on his cut. You can play "what if" either way.
Chark fumble happened in Auburn territory, acting like they got the ball at our 5 is ridiculous. They drove more than half the field to score that TD.
There was one INT dropped that should've been caught, and that was DJ's, I'll give you that. The others were good pass breakups, but INTs were unrealistic.
Big difference between 23-7 and 23-14 at half in how this game plays out.
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n the 1st half Greedy knocks away a TD pass. In the 2nd Tolliver broke up 2 good passes with tight coverage and DJ made 4 great PBUs. We also figured out how to stop the run. Just because our D stepped up doesn't mean their playcalling was bad.
It's kind of ridiculous that some folks take a great performance by LSU and try to "explain it away".
Ummm... did I say LSU didn't make plays? No, I didn't. Anyone that knows anything about football could see how horrid Auburn's playcalling was in the second half. They did nothing to adjust to any adjustments made by Aranda. It was Les Milesesque from 1/9/2012.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:38 pm to magildachunks
Let me clear up some confusion. If we lose to another team they suck. If we beat another team it's because they suck. Welcome to the Rant; however, your rational thoughts will not do well here.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:30 am to GusMcRae
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Sick of "fans" spending all their time and energy spewing negativity. Go to the games, cheer for your team, and hope they win. Otherwise, shut the frick up.
You've been sick for a long time my friend.
Half the people in here spewed negativity every day about the old regime. They hated Miles. Now the other half that got so sick of it took their shots after Troy and are spewing their frustration with the new regime. 5-2 is not good enough for them.
It be a tit 4 tatta. See a pattern? This is a negativity board.
Will winning 11 games a year cure the tit tattas? Who knows. Be nice to find out.
Theres always next year.
Try seeing a Dr. or change your form of medication.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:45 am to magildachunks
Auburn is a good team with the ability to blow decent teams out.
However, if you can stop the run without committing extra men, their offense goes to hell. If they are running for 6 or 7 yards a pop, the passing game comes alive and they can score very quickly.
Auburn is legitimately a top 15 team IMO.
However, if you can stop the run without committing extra men, their offense goes to hell. If they are running for 6 or 7 yards a pop, the passing game comes alive and they can score very quickly.
Auburn is legitimately a top 15 team IMO.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:46 am to magildachunks
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I'm generally confused with some of you right now
It's not confusing, they hate O.
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Is your pride so hurt from being wrong you can't find any happiness with the win?
Yes. Hate>happiness
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:26 am to Havoc
Auburn was not a bad team...but their play calling in the second half was terrible...poor coaching more than anything else
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:44 am to Geauxgurt
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Another thing people don't realize is that once again, LSU couldn't run the ball to save themselves outside of the jetsweep. Auburn's front 7 shut down LSU's run game and the Jetsweep burned them leading to the first TD.
this week shall show if/how we may have improved over the season.
Ole Miss is like #115 or something like that in rushing yards allowed.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:52 am to tigeramongpigs
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Of course not! For many on this board, if we beat a team, they must be garbage...
You guys are just making up what you think people are thinking so you can be outraged about it. Most everyone here acknowledges Auburn as a good team.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:02 am to magildachunks
Shouldn't you be asking if Troy is a good team now that they had a beat down by South Alabama? Hell, Auburn is barely the 4th best team in Alabama (behind Bama, South Bama and Troy) if we buy your theory that LSU is better than Auburn.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:19 am to Goldrush25
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You guys are just making up what you think people are thinking so you can be outraged about it. Most everyone here acknowledges Auburn as a good team.
"Amazing what beating the worst Florida team in 30 years and an overrated Auburn does to people."
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:31 pm to magildachunks
They lost to the second to worst team in the west. So no, they aren't good
Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:53 pm to Goldrush25
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Most everyone here acknowledges Auburn as a good team.
And that it was a really fine comeback win after getting down 20-0.
I think most reasonable people are kinda holding their breath in waiting to see if we can become a consistent winner after State and the Troy clusterfrick.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:21 pm to magildachunks
As an O detractor, Auburn was a great win, a great win against a good SEC opponent.
Anyone that tries to frame it up different is just wrong.
Anyone that tries to frame it up different is just wrong.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:24 pm to TigerDat
quote:offensively terrible
No but Florida is garbage
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