re: How good will we do this year?

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Took Davis a couple seasons to be competent on defense too.

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I know DRPM is far from a definitive stat, but it seems to be one of the more highly regarded ones for defense. AD at age 21 was the #3 PF in DRPM LINK KAT at 21 was dead last in DRPM at center LINK The year before AD was middle of the pack at 27.

I'll admit the only times I watched him were when AD was abusing him on the court like a little brother he doesn't like very much, but unless you have a good eye test or flaw in the stat reason to tell me why DRPM isn't ranking KAT right, I don't have much faith that he's going to go from worse than everybody to even average in just an offseason. I do think by the end of the year with vets like Butler and Gibson leading the way he might actually start getting it. But I will be really surprised if they start the season doing anything but disappointing all of these people penciling them in as the 5 seed.

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Here's what I see: a Pels fan thinks all the Pels will play better together, but doesn't think that Wolves can have internal improvement or be better after adding Jimmy Butler.

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AD/DC got 17 valuable games together last season. And I'm not penciling the Pels in as the 5 seed. I think they'll start hot, then cool off, because of the schedule, and whether the rise and fall will depend on how good they can actually become. It's still a big unknown. The talent is there to be .500, but is the chemistry there to be better than .500?