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re: Bump/Slide stocks are flying off the shelves

Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34375 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:12 pm to
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1. What makes a bump fire stock inherently more dangerous than a regular stock?


It increases the realistic rate of fire significantly.

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2. What makes one gun inherently more dangerous than another gun?


See above

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3. If some guns (or accessories) should be banned because they are dangerous then that means the allowed guns must be not dangerous, or safe. List the safe guns in order of safetyness.


That's dumb. If you can have a black cat, why can't I have a hydrogen bomb? List the safe explosives in order of safetyness.

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4. Do you genuinely feel that banning one type of firearm will put an end to mass shootings?


Not in the near term. However, limiting their availability will certainly help reduce casualties. Where were all the hero concealed carriers who are out there protecting the populace in LV? The extreme gun rights people always say that their carrying protects the population, yet nobody stopped this guy. What gives?

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5. List the things people need.


Common sense, clearly.
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:32 pm to
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It increases the realistic rate of fire significantly.


What is inherently dangerous about faster fire rate? How fast is too fast?

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See above

So guns with slower fire rates are inherently safer? Why is a slower fire rate safer than a faster one?

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That's dumb. If you can have a black cat, why can't I have a hydrogen bomb? List the safe explosives in order of safetyness.

You didn't answer the question. If some guns (or accessories) should be banned because they are dangerous then that means the allowed guns must be not dangerous, or safe. List the safe guns in order of safetyness.

Your straw man is weak, but I'll entertain it. As to why you can't have a hydrogen bomb, my guess would be, aside from regulations preventing it, you don't have the cash. I would rank explosive safeness in the order of their volatility. You think that because a law or regulations are in place that I support them. I wold be a proponent of your legal battle to obtain a Hydrogen bomb. Although chances of it happening are probably zero because your pockets aren't that deep.

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Not in the near term. However, limiting their availability will certainly help reduce casualties. Where were all the hero concealed carriers who are out there protecting the populace in LV? The extreme gun rights people always say that their carrying protects the population, yet nobody stopped this guy. What gives?


Can you cite your source that shows a yet to be specified limit to rate of fire would reduce casualties in a mass shooting?

Concealed carry firearms are typically handguns with short barrels. A shot out to 300yds is not feasible or ethical to take with such arms. Being responsible individuals with guns, the concealed carry crowd did not return fire that they were not certain would hit their target.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 3:34 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:34 pm to
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The extreme gun rights people always say that their carrying protects the population, yet nobody stopped this guy. What gives?
This guy was hundreds of yards away. Concealed handguns wouldn't have meant shite in this RARE case. Have you never seen lives saved in day to day situations by concealed carriers?
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4028 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:46 pm to
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Where were all the hero concealed carriers who are out there protecting the populace in LV? The extreme gun rights people always say that their carrying protects the population, yet nobody stopped this guy. What gives?


Not that it would matter in this case, as the shooter was hundreds of yards away and elevated, but most concerts tend to be labeled “gun free zones.” If you look back at mass shootings of the recent past, an alarming number occur in these “gun-free zones,” as the law abiding citizens present are sure to be defenseless. What gives?! You mean to tell me a criminal would completely disregard these “no guns allowed” restrictions???? You speak of common sense, this is a perfect example of the lack of it.
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