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re: Mass shooting at Mandalay Bay

Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:44 am to
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:44 am to
Couldn't it also just be possible this guy had no ISIS connection or political stance, and just wanted to see people go down with him? Some reports he was going through a divorce... so he easily could have just been in a tailspin and planned to off himself, so he chose to take people out with him?

I think that's the most probable thing, to be honest. Anything else really sounds absurd to me. Libs wouldn't go buy these types of weapons. Rebs wouldn't off their own. This guy doesn't fit any sort of mold of who would carry out something for ISIS, either.

Probably just a depressed and demented individual who wanted to see the world burn with him.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 11:47 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:54 am to
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Couldn't it also just be possible this guy had no ISIS connection or political stance, and just wanted to see people go down with him?


Yeah. Totally. Tons of shooters have been like this. It's not hard to find historical support for this possibility.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:55 am to
Starting to be reported he was going through a divorce, and had lost a 2012 lawsuit against a Las Vegas strip hotel. (no word on which one).

ETA: The Cosmopolitan
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 11:56 am
Posted by MrCarton
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:57 am to
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this is what america has become...divisive


Yeah agreed. I think that account was actually real too. At first I didn't but it was reportedly deleted.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Couldn't it also just be possible this guy had no ISIS connection or political stance, and just wanted to see people go down with him?


Sure, if he didn't plan out for months the killings of mostly white conservatives, in the middle of fuvkin vegas.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:59 am to
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Really, I'm open to ISIS but FBI is running the point and they say no connection at this point.


Fair enough. So lets backtrack to the numerous Clinton scandals in the last two years. Whose word are you taking in those instances? The media reports of CNN and MSNBC? Or the various govt agencies?

My point is that there's nothing wrong with commenting on things major media outlets are reporting. It's just a matter of whether to believe them or not.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:59 am to
If this guy really did just so happen to snap, then his patience after "snapping" was unmatched and unrivaled.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:00 pm to
I mean... people on here are eager to try to make some sort of connection. Grasping at straws is how I see those people reacting, on both sides, in hopes that he was on the other side of the fence so they could use it as ammunition in their next political "discussion."

He could still have planned on it for months if he just wanted to see the world burn.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 12:08 pm
Posted by LukeSidewalker
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:01 pm to
But a country music festival in vegas? Please tell me you ain't this stupid.
Posted by Rakim
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:02 pm to
LINK /

quote:

1. The Shooter Was a ‘Local Individual’ & Police Do Not Believe It Was an Act of Terrorism ‘At This Point’

2. Police Were Looking for a ‘Companion’ of the Gunman & Located Her Outside the Country

Police were looking for a “person of interest,” a 4’11” Asian woman named Marilou Danley. She was described as a “companion” of the shooter.

Paddock, W Was Possibly Going Through a Divorce, Had Recently Been Gambling & Sued a Las Vegas Strip Casino in 2012

4. His Brother Says the Family Is ‘Dumbfounded’ by What Happened & Says the Shooter, Who Had No Religious or Political Affiliation, ‘Must Have Snapped

5. The Gunman Fired Dozens of Shots, Forcing Singer Jason Aldean Off the Stage & Concertgoers Racing to the Exits
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Who Had No Religious or Political Affiliation,


Lol yeah because so many people have no political or religious views at all. Am the only one in earth right now?

He's married to a foreigner. He has views.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:04 pm to
This guy just snapped by all indications.

Worse mass shooting in our history.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:09 pm to
The truth will come out. The problem will be, if we can see it or not.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:24 pm to
The Giffords are already doing press conferences. Unbelievable.
Posted by thetigerman
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:36 pm to
Jason Aldean's statement after the shootings:

quote:

jasonaldeanTonight has been beyond horrific. I still dont know what to say but wanted to let everyone know that Me and my Crew are safe. My Thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved tonight. It hurts my heart that this would happen to anyone who was just coming out to enjoy what should have been a fun night. #heartbroken #stopthehate


JA's Instagram Post
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

This guy just snapped by all indications.

Worse mass shooting in our history.



I'm calling BS on that. You don't just snap with something like this that takes planning. He was checked into that room for days.

I'm not a psychologist but I've put in a couple of years with the mentally ill. They don't plan things like this, its usually pretty compulsive. Something changes in their mind, and they react.

This didn't take a lot of planning, but it was calculated over at least a couple of weeks. That takes some sort of motive IMO and that motive is not just making the world burn.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:39 pm to
Poor dude. His audience targeted for how they view life. So sad.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 12:45 pm to
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I'm calling BS on that. You don't just snap with something like this that takes planning. He was checked into that room for days. I'm not a psychologist but I've put in a couple of years with the mentally ill. They don't plan things like this, its usually pretty compulsive. Something changes in their mind, and they react. This didn't take a lot of planning, but it was calculated over at least a couple of weeks. That takes some sort of motive IMO and that motive is not just making the world burn.



Exactly. Anyone saying this wasn't planned and fueled by hate are lost and will never be found. And fuvk you.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99492 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 1:42 pm to
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