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re: LSU's offense is supposed to struggle

Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:05 pm to




I posted this in July. The same people that are bitching right now are the same ones that called me an idiot.


My expectations are to see steady improvement this year from this team, especially the young players. That may not equate to wins and losses this year, but it should in the future. I want to see the coaching staff adapt and adjust. And they have showed that in more than one way. Keep recruiting. Keey giving Brennan snaps.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

The same people that are bitching right now are the same ones that called me an idiot.

I see it how you saw it now. Just a few months late. I was probably one of the ones calling you an idiot back in July, though. Mea Culpa.

Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:12 pm to
STOP POSTING BLIND LINKS
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

I tire of the narrative. miles was fired because he was no longer competing in the SEC west. our SEC record stunk and our talent on offense, other than RB and WR sucked. to expect O or any coach to come into this situation and immediately win 10 games is ludicrous. maybe he won't work out but at least reasonable people should give him a chance.


It's one to think the offense would not be better this year. But the fact that it looks worse has to fall on O. Regardless of the reasons. The buck stops with him and he got the job by promising the offense would improve.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40126 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:19 pm to
You responded to my post. When that was written we were returning 4 starters on the offensive line; 2 of 3 on the dline (counting Lac) with Rashard Lawrence, Ed Alexander, and Frank Herron behind them. What made you "right" was Maea leaving, Herron toking, and Alexander and Lawrence getting injured. Oh, and a second tier coach.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279332 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:22 pm to
I didnt even look at your post, to be honest.

But I Just did, and this is it in full context.

quote:

At every single position group we have veteran front line talent returning. That is a very rare situation. And our depth is very good except at inside linebacker.


You were wrong then and you are still wrong now, as my response above outlined


You also called our WR group "not inexperienced". A group that had 36 total catches from last year
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 7:25 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Well he an Jimmy are boys

Are they? I've found Jimmy Smith has been pretty critical of this staff recently. He made some very pointed tweets about the coaches relating to reporters' inability to report on the player suspensions before the BYU game for fear of being blackballed.

I guess you'll just say that this was planned subterfuge by the Orgeron PR machine, though

It's funny how quick you guys are to discredit a journalist whose opinion you don't agree with. It's a very sophomoric tactic. With the exception of Up to Par and maybe one or two others, none of you offer any insight into the basis of your opinion other than "O sucks, look at Ole Miss" and "we're LSU we should expect to win 10 games every year, damnit".

O might very well suck, but for many of us, the jury is still out. And despite you wanting to pin everything on him being a shitty coach, there could be alternative reasons that this teams isn't looking sharp yet. But you refuse to acknowledge anything other than your torches and pitchfork agenda.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279332 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

I see it how you saw it now. Just a few months late. I was probably one of the ones calling you an idiot back in July, though. Mea Culpa.




you're a good poster my friend ,keep it up
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:45 pm to
Ty for posting Lester.

I missed that in July.

I expected a little decline in the defense based off of the quality and number of players that went to the NFL.

I did not expect the offense to look this bad especially after Canada was talking about how good of a job the players did with the install.

Just dissappointing in my view.

Always a Tiger
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3947 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:47 pm to
Well said
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22214 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:03 pm to
I love how the article leads off with this gem:

quote:

The inability to sign and develop premier quarterbacks still plagues the university, with much of it due to bad evaluating, but the 2017 haul of Myles Brennan and Lowell Narcisse is promising.


Does the author realize that the same “bad evaluators” offered and received commitments from Brennan and Narcisse?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46645 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

tire of the narrative. miles was fired because he was no longer competing in the SEC west. our SEC record stunk and our talent on offense, other than RB and WR suck



we had the most olineman on all sec teams, a rimington award finalist and led the the country in yards before contact.

our offense during Miles' last full year we finished above bama,ohio state, and fsu in offensive yards per game and offensive points per game.

for the last 5 years the narrative has been that miles is the only reason oir offense sucks. your try to chnage that narrative just proves the bias
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:50 pm to
which is why i stated quite some time back i am not blaming miles for this. he has taken his blame. he is gone. NFW is the cupboard dry. If this cupboard is dry then dinardo left saban stuck in a heat wave in the sahara desert! O is the HC now. This is his baby.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24624 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:08 pm to
setback for the position group, while the departures of Maea Teuhema and Chidi Valentine-Okeke, both of which were expected to high-level contributors at this point of their careers, have put the Tigers in a bind up-front.

Not paying attention and letting your offensive linemen that you started last year is directly on the head coach.
I guarantee you at the end of the fall every other coach knew EXACTLY where those kids stood and what they needed to do to stay qualified. You don't fricking wait until the spring.
Orgeron let this shite happen because he has ZERO discipline to attention to details himself. His record as a head coach proves it.

You don't let over 1/3 of your total starts at guardnon the offensive line walk out. So keep spinning shitmlike this by stating they were supposed to struggle. Struggling due to youth isn't the issue, it is the fact that they struggled against poor competition and their got skulls beat in by a bad Mississippi State team.
What smells like shite usually is and that is exactly what LSU hired last year.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279332 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:14 pm to
im not reading that wall of text with run on sentences. do you mind formatting that a little better?
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4364 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:18 pm to
Penalties and other mistakes all can be fixed ,players that transferred and coach Miles cant be replaced !
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4364 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:20 pm to
tiger1988, Did you post to help our recruiting ,it wont!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46645 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

which is why i stated quite some time back i am not blaming miles for this. he has taken his blame. he is gone. NFW is the cupboard dry. If this cupboard is dry then dinardo left saban stuck in a heat wave in the sahara desert! O is the HC now. This is his baby.


exactly.

we still have 8 4 star olineman on the roster. there are numerous programs with less talent that field a better oline product than we do. the problem looks like our oline is lacking fundamentals in hand placement and footwork. it doesn't matter how great grimes' zone blocking scheme is if our olineman are getting destroyed because of fundamentals.

but it maybe more than that. i or anyone for that matter, can only see so much from a tv broadcasts especially oline play
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46645 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

which is why i stated quite some time back i am not blaming miles for this. he has taken his blame. he is gone. NFW is the cupboard dry. If this cupboard is dry then dinardo left saban stuck in a heat wave in the sahara desert! O is the HC now. This is his baby.


exactly.

we still have 8 4 star olineman on the roster. there are numerous programs with less talent that field a better oline product than we do. the problem looks like our oline is lacking fundamentals in hand placement and footwork. it doesn't matter how great grimes' zone blocking scheme is if our olineman are getting destroyed because of fundamentals.

but it maybe more than that. i or anyone for that matter, can only see so much from a tv broadcasts especially oline play
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46645 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

setback for the position group, while the departures of Maea Teuhema and Chidi Valentine-Okeke, both of which were expected to high-level contributors at this point of their careers, have put the Tigers in a bind up-front.not paying attention and letting your offensive linemen that you started last year is directly on the head coach. 
I guarantee you at the end of the fall every other coach knew EXACTLY where those kids stood and what they needed to do to stay qualified. You don't ducking wait until the spring. 
Orgeron let this shite happen because he has ZERO discipline to attention to details himself. His record as a head coach proves it. 

You don't let over 1/3 of your total starts at guardnon the offensive line walk out. So keep spinning shitmlike this by stating they were supposed to struggle. Struggling due to youth isn't the issue, it is the fact that they struggled against poor competition and their got skulls beat in by a bad Mississippi State team. 
What smells like shite usually is and that is exactly what LSU hired last year. 




yep.

maybe o shouldve offered a juco olineman or offered more olineman instead of almost losing our 2 committed qbs by offering a qb that was never coming here.
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