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re: Mike Tomlin has issue with Alejandro Villanueva coming out for the National Anthem?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:40 am to slackster
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:40 am to slackster
quote:He said he wanted 100% participation, that's a slight. Maybe he didn't mean it, but it's not a good way of choosing his words.
Tomlin says he wanted it to be an all or nothing team decision. That's it. He doesn't criticize Villanueva.
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:41 am to WB504
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I think Tomlin thought he found a solution to keep his team out of the political media headlines, but now because of Villanueva(not saying he was wrong), the Steelers have moved to the front.
Exactly. I'm proud of Villanueva, but I also understand why a head coach would want the entire team to do one thing or he other. Villanueva made it look like the rest of the Steelers were protesting the anthem, and that isn't the case at all.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:41 am to sms151t
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We, as football fans, know Villanueva's story. This now is going to possibly tear a team apart in some way. Tomlin was trying to prevent that, I feel.
You dont think he already had by placing Villanueva in such a position? We are talking about a West Point grad who served multiple tours and has a bronze star.. A guy that has been very careful and respectful with his words regarding this situation. frick Tomlin for putting him in this spot. He is a leader on the team for christs sake.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:41 am to buckeye_vol
quote:He is stating flatly that he did not want Villanueva to do what he did.
But it doesn't appear that he actually complained about Villanueva's actions; it's just putting a spin on what he said.
That is not a good look for a coach.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:43 am to slackster
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suggest you read his press conference transcript and avoid slanted articles from Fox News, MSN, etc.
My response was more directed to sms as to why he's receiving down votes.
But, come on. Without the slanted news flash, just going off the transcript, the context that he wasn't happy about Villanueva was there. That's gonna be a bad look no matter what, especially considering who the player is.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:43 am to JBeam
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I don't see a problem with this statement at all.
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Like I said, I was looking for a hundred percent participation. We’re going to be respectful of our football team....except when it comes to Alejandro Villanueva. He is a decorated, three-tour veteran of the country. His service and commitment to our country is vastly superior and comes before the respect of our professional athletes.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 11:44 am
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:44 am to shel311
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He said he wanted 100% participation, that's a slight. Maybe he didn't mean it, but it's not a good way of choosing his words.
Wanting the entire team to do the same thing is a perfectly reasonable wish. He had ample opportunity to throw Villanueva under the bus, but he didn't.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:44 am to shel311
Tomlin missed an opportunity to be the GOAT hero for damn near both sides of this issue.
"We wanted 100% team collaboration on this issue, which is what we got. Villaneuva stood for the anthem as a former Ranger, which supersedes this situation as a member of our military. Our players understood that."
"We wanted 100% team collaboration on this issue, which is what we got. Villaneuva stood for the anthem as a former Ranger, which supersedes this situation as a member of our military. Our players understood that."
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:45 am to lsupride87
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Tomlin missed an opportunity to be the GOAT hero for damn near both sides of this issue.
"We wanted 100% team collaboration on this issue, which is what we got. Villaneuva stood for the anthem as a former Ranger, which supersedes this situation as a member of our military. Our players understood that."
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:45 am to shel311
He said he didn't want his players to be used as political tools in this situation. That's why he was looking for 100% participation by staying in the locker room. He was not attacking Villanueva.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:45 am to slackster
quote:It's a very poor choice of words IMO
Wanting the entire team to do the same thing is a perfectly reasonable wish. He had ample opportunity to throw Villanueva under the bus, but he didn't.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:46 am to Jcorye1
it'd be nice to get back to a time where you could just report a story and let people form their own opinions from the facts. That story is so pathetically slanted.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:46 am to shel311
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He is stating flatly that he did not want Villanueva to do what he did.
False.
He's saying he wanted the entire team to do it together. He's not criticizing Villanueva for coming out of the tunnel nor would he be criticizing James Harrison for coming out and taking a knee. He would have preferred the entire team do it together.
Given the circus this has become, I'm not sure how anyone could disagree with that wish.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:46 am to JBeam
quote:But he did. When you say you wanted 100% participation, and you got it from everyone but 1 player, you are saying that player did not do what you want....
That's why he was looking for 100% participation by staying in the locker room. He was not attacking Villanueva.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:46 am to slackster
quote:What does Villanueva coming out for the anthem have to do with politics?
It bugs me that the Steelers and Tomlin did EXACTLY what the MSB wants - just play football and leave the political statements off the field - yet they're still criticizing Tomlin/the team.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:46 am to shel311
quote:They asked him a direct question, and he provided the honest answer to it, which is exactly what he said pregame.
It's a very poor choice of words IMO
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:47 am to zsav77
quote:You are looking for a reason to vilify Tomlin if you really take issue with what he said in that transcript.
Without the slanted news flash, just going off the transcript, the context that he wasn't happy about Villanueva was there. That's gonna be a bad look no matter what, especially considering who the player is.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:47 am to slackster
quote:Saying he wanted the entire team to stay in the locker room equates quite literally to saying he did not want Villanueva to do what he did.
He's saying he wanted the entire team to do it together.
Again, I don't think he had poor intentions, but it was just a really bad choice of words.
quote:He's not criticizing, he's saying he would have preferred he not do it.
He's not criticizing Villanueva for coming out of the tunnel
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:48 am to shel311
quote:Yep
Saying he wanted the entire team to stay in the locker room equates quite literally to saying he did not want Villanueva to do what he did.
Again, I don't think he had poor intentions, but it was just a really bad choice of words.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:48 am to slackster
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It bugs me that the Steelers and Tomlin did EXACTLY what the MSB wants - just play football and leave the political statements off the field - yet they're still criticizing Tomlin/the team.
You cant see how staying in for the anthem during this time wouldnt be construed one way or the other.. It blew up in their face because they put the wrong person in a awkward position without getting him on board. Tomlin is covering his arse at this point because the organization has egg on its face and he made it worse by his opening line.
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