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re: Shocking: Bill DeBlasio hates private property

Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:46 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:46 am to
yeah these beliefs are difficult to unpack in terms of wht the people actually believe

people like BDB are panderers to their base and i imagine they don't fully believe this shite but say it to appeal to voters

also, he probably does believe in regulating private property, but he believes in regulating the private property of others. i imagine he feels like he's not "rich" and he's fully capable of managing his own private property

private property is literally the foundation of Western society and democratic governments. private property is what eroded the power of monarchy and created the merchant middle class. this gave people outside of the aristocracy power to influence government and to protect their other rights. it also created the concept of the free working class, who now had the ability to develop their lives and economic interests and realize the fruits of their labor (as opposed to subsistence-level living granted to them by the feudal lords who owned the property)

other foundational concepts like voting and free speech matter, but they lose most of their power and meaning if the population is not allowed to own their own property. you can enact change and influence government with property and without speech/voting, however if you have full speech/voting power it is difficult to truly change anything if you don't own anything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:49 am to
quote:

yeah these beliefs are difficult to unpack in terms of wht the people actually believe

people like BDB are panderers to their base and i imagine they don't fully believe this shite but say it to appeal to voters


Yeah, I imagine if you tried to nail him down on the details his ideas would fall apart a bit, or come across a little differently.
Posted by FutureRATeammember
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Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:55 am to
This is actual communism. Is it OK to punch a communist?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 9:49 am to
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private property is literally the foundation of Western society and democratic governments. private property is what eroded the power of monarchy and created the merchant middle class. this gave people outside of the aristocracy power to influence government and to protect their other rights. it also created the concept of the free working class, who now had the ability to develop their lives and economic interests and realize the fruits of their labor (as opposed to subsistence-level living granted to them by the feudal lords who owned the property)

Which is why Property owners should be the only ones allowed to vote in elections, like it used to be. Someone who doesnt own a thing in this nations shouldnt have the same voice as someone who has invested in this nation.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 9:50 am
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