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If they are so valuable to our workforce and it will be devastating if they leave why not take the steps to stay here legally? They had the time and capability.

They would if they could.

The common misconception that you and many others share is that anyone can just apply for citizenship just like that. In most instances the first step of citizenship is getting a green card. In order to get a green card you have to have either an employer who is sponsoring you or you need to have a family-based sponsorship. The additional requirement is you either need to be legally present in the country while you're applying for a green card, or you have never been out of status, or you need to be outside the country. Most dreamers can't satisfy this requirement.

Some DACA recipients actually went outside the country on DACA and received citizenship since they had either employment-based or family-based sponsorship. But for most of them that is not an option since they don't have any home base in the country they originally came from.

I am a legal resident who had a green card application pretending since 2010. I came to lsu as a student in 2003, have always had legal status. And I can assure you the legal immigration process is so messed up, I don't blame the DACA kids for not trying to go out of the country and then come back legally.

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Posted by litenin

Houston

Member since Mar 2016

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Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:59 am to ewdij

Apologies for this very basic question that has likely been asked numerous times. How do the Dreamers get jobs in the US without citizenship or a green card? Is the I-9 form not required for them or is there an alternate form?

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Posted by alphaandomega

Tuscaloosa

Member since Aug 2012

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Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:29 am to ewdij

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I don't blame the DACA kids for not trying to go out of the country and then come back legally.

Well considering they are not supposed to be here in the first place I applaud them leaving and trying to come back in legally. Because that is they law and they are showing that they respect our laws.

The ones who remain (and do not respect our laws) should be removed (deported) and NEVER allowed back in. Ever. They should lose the ability to ever join this country if they tried to cheat their way in in the first place.

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Posted by Ace Midnight

Between sanity and madness

Member since Dec 2006

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Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:34 pm to ewdij

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The common misconception that you and many others share is that anyone can just go to the bank and get a million dollars just like that. In most instances the first step of amassing a million dollars is getting a job. In order to get a job you have to have either skills and education or a willingness to work hard doing unskilled work. The additional requirement is you either need to obey the law, pay your taxes and stay out of trouble sufficient to keep doing this job. Most Americans can't satisfy this requirement.

You can say this about anything. They could apply. They could wait in line. They could bring something to the table.

But it's easier to wait for the inevitable amnesty to come. The only problem is - once the amnesty comes, a new wave will start with millions more flooding in to start their clock for the next round of amnesty.

Rinse, repeat until we're done as a separately identifiable sovereign nation. Just Northish Mexico.

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