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re: Former Olympic Athlete turned nurse handcuffed by Billy Badass cop

Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:55 pm to
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I am retracting most of my statements counselor.


No worries man. My tactics generally don't include berating you. The patient that they wanted the blood from did have a CDL (commercial driver's license) they have a lower expectation of privacy. However, the use of force here was insane. My wife is a nurse. I would come unglued on that a$$hat after the fact. If I witnessed this happening in real time that officer would get an education in something else I was an instructor in...grappling/DTs.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35715 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:56 pm to
You're totally right.

quote:

The incident began when a truck driver was severely burned in a head-on crash with a vehicle that was fleeing from police in Cache County and crossed into on-coming traffic. The driver of the fleeing vehicle was killed. The truck driver was sedated and in a comatose state when he arrived at the hospital.


Although the department and actions of their employees have qualified immunity.

It depends on the city and county if you can sue the police. But they were most likely going to tamper with his blood sample. A lot of Counties have prohibited police chases for minor shite like traffic violations due to the carnage they cause to innocent drivers.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:56 pm to
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They were stacking the deck against this guy before he ever had a chance to pursue legal action and playing the odds that the courts would sort it out.



The guy they wanted blood from was the truck driver that was hit by the fleeing suspect. That is his only involvement in the scenario.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27042 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:59 pm to
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However, the use of force here was insane. My wife is a nurse. I would come unglued on that a$$hat after the fact. If I witnessed this happening in real time that officer would get an education in something else I was


Absolutely. That cop just got his jimmies rustled. The other cop in the video wants zero part of what's happening. He even steps out of the shot from the other officers body cam. Nobody else puts hands on the nurse. They all put hands on the cop.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19160 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:03 pm to
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The guy they wanted blood from was the truck driver that was hit by the fleeing suspect. That is his only involvement in the scenario.




I'm aware of that. Listen to the second cop talk about civil action. They were trying to rail road this guy and limit their liability. A blood draw from a sedated patient would have been used against against the victim in any civil liability case

There is no other reasonable explanation for their actions
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:03 pm to
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Nobody else puts hands on the nurse. They all put hands on the cop.




When I was on the job, this was known as a CLUE.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:06 pm to
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They were trying to rail road this guy and limit their liability


I'm tracking. This is the job of attorneys and policy, not the officer in the field.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:07 pm to
Not sure if posted already.

Video of crash
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48824 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:08 pm to
Damn. It was basically suicide?
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:10 pm to
Yep.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64794 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:10 pm to
LEO was wrong and what was his plan? Keep arresting until someone did his bidding?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49124 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:13 pm to
It legal to kill a cop if you are resisting an unlawful arrest
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19160 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

This is the job of attorneys and policy, not the officer in the field.


Exactly, which makes you question the motivations of the police here. They were hell bent on getting a blood draw from a burned up victim. Why was that?
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:14 pm to
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It legal to kill a cop if you are resisting an unlawful arrest



Yes, but in the short term, you will not be judged in a court of law. Reality is a bitch.

ETA: The place to fight police misconduct is in court not on the street.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49124 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:15 pm to
quote:


Yes, but in the short term, you will not be judged in a court of law. Reality is a bitch.



So is getting killed while unlawfully arresting people

quote:

ETA: The place to fight police misconduct is in court not on the street.


100% agree, unless I thought the officer had plans to murder me, like the cop in Natchitoches who killed old boy.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:17 pm to
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So is getting killed while unlawfully arresting people


Okay, you have a better chance of winning the lottery while getting struck by lightning. Good luck.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20960 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:33 pm to
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It depends on the city and county if you can sue the police


Nope. 1983 is a federal action, not a state one...
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19160 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:35 pm to
Just heard on the radio that the officer has been placed on administrative leave and the DA is looking into pursuing criminal charges. I hope they nail this sorry son of a bitch the wall along with that bitch arse cop talking about "his law"
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35715 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:38 pm to
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Exactly, which makes you question the motivations of the police here. They were hell bent on getting a blood draw from a burned up victim. Why was that?


Well you answered that.

Somebody higher up - told them to do X,Y,Z.

These innocent driver gets maimed or killed from a police pursuit are facing a massive backlash. (Sounds like the pursuit was justified but precincts aren't taking any chances now.) Easier to mitigate a lawsuit with comparative liability by tampering with his blood sample.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10477 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:51 pm to
Can a officer or even a judge require a medical official to do their bidding?

I understand they can compel someone to give up their blood, but can the compel someone to take blood?
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